She Was Pulled Over for Speeding......

[HuskyMan]

The following is controversial; that said, anyone in the medical profession KNOWS that people who are in physical pain may say or do things that are out of character. Those who have never experienced severe hip pain and trauma may not understand completely her words and actions. I'm no bleeding heart but she didn't whip out a tazer or pull a gun on the cop, she merely wanted to see his badge number which she has a right to see. She also has the right to ask for and receive his business card.

There have been more than a few cases involving men impersonating cops who used the ploy to attack and rape women. There was a case in New Jersey involving exactly this; the guy had Starsky and Hutch flashing lights which he turned on to pull women over and then raped them. After about the eighth rape, the State of New Jersey made the wise decision to eliminate "plain wrapper" cop cars; all police cars would be clearly marked. Smart move by the State, though a little late for the police impersonator's rape victims. That said, I don't blame any woman for wanting to know for certainty who she is dealing with. Especially when out at night or on a deserted road.



She Was Pulled Over for Speeding, But What She’s About to Do Will Have Police Ripping Her Out of Her Car | Video | TheBlaze.com

[spdrun]

Wonder if that coward of a cop would piss his pants like a small child if confronted with someone who's actually a threat. (And hope that he meets with an unexpected threat soon.)

[Dudesky]

Originally Posted by spdrun

Wonder if that coward of a cop would piss his pants like a small child if confronted with someone who's actually a threat. (And hope that he meets with an unexpected threat soon.)

How sweet of you.

She should be more aware of what constitutes simple assault.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igQDvYOt_iA

[Benzasaurus]

This is the video of Daniel Saenz being killed while handcuffed. It's graphic and awful. He was handcuffed at the time.
http://www.news.com.au/world/el-paso-police-officer-jose-flores-caught-on-camera-shooting-handcuffed-prisoner-daniel-saenz/story-fndir2ev-1226960939409

I do think there is a problem with police brutality. Is it Albuquerque where they've shot 37 people in the last couple of years?

[Benzasaurus]

As for the rape thing, I know a few years ago I wouldn't have hesitated to pull over for an unmarked Crown Vic with lights going. It would never have occurred to me it could be someone trying to trick me. But now I would drive to a gas station and pull in, call 911 on speaker while doing it and maybe just go slow in the shoulder while waiting for them to contact the officer. There's no winning. If you stop and ask for ID, if it's a rapist they probably will have a gun and just force you out. I think lots of states have outlawed unmarked cars making traffic stops for this reason.

[Dudesky]

Originally Posted by Benzasaurus

This is the video of Daniel Saenz being killed while handcuffed. It's graphic and awful. He was handcuffed at the time.
El Paso police officer Jose Flores caught on camera shooting handcuffed prisoner Daniel Saenz | News.com.au

I do think there is a problem with police brutality. Is it Albuquerque where they've shot 37 people in the last couple of years?

And a grand jury refused to indict.

[Dudesky]

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[HuskyMan]

Originally Posted by Benzasaurus

This is the video of Daniel Saenz being killed while handcuffed. It's graphic and awful. He was handcuffed at the time.
El Paso police officer Jose Flores caught on camera shooting handcuffed prisoner Daniel Saenz | News.com.au

I do think there is a problem with police brutality. Is it Albuquerque where they've shot 37 people in the last couple of years?

Sad story. The only difference between a cop pulling the trigger and John Q Citizen pulling the trigger is the cop has a license to kill, John Q does not. In most of these cases, the cop involved is placed on administrative leave for a period of time. Most of the time they walk free of any charges of criminal wrongdoing.

Even if the matter is brought before a Grand Jury, it seems the jurors have a "if the cop pulled the trigger which resulted in death or injury then it must have been justified because cops are never wrong" attitude. It's as though the cops have been granted not only a literal license to kill but the dumb a** jurors give 'em a pass.

Give a man a badge and a gun and for the first time in his life he has some real power. Yesterday he was nobody, today he's somebody. What's the old saying? Absolute power absolutely corrupts?

[Benzasaurus]

I agree with you. Complicity in the system, unwillingness to go after cops, is tied to all kinds of problems. You may/may not know about this. Cops get away with a harrowing amount of domestic abuse, and 40% of police officers' partners experience abuse compared to the national average of 25%.

[HuskyMan]

Originally Posted by Benzasaurus

As for the rape thing, I know a few years ago I wouldn't have hesitated to pull over for an unmarked Crown Vic with lights going. It would never have occurred to me it could be someone trying to trick me. But now I would drive to a gas station and pull in, call 911 on speaker while doing it and maybe just go slow in the shoulder while waiting for them to contact the officer. There's no winning. If you stop and ask for ID, if it's a rapist they probably will have a gun and just force you out. I think lots of states have outlawed unmarked cars making traffic stops for this reason.

I believe you understand the dilemma. If it looks like a cop car, he dresses like a cop and acts like a cop IS HE REALLY A COP??? A badge and gun carries a LOT of power and most people are intimidated to the point of doing whatever he says to do. I do believe that women should not be out driving alone at night, especially on deserted lonely highways or streets. Better if you can get a male friend to ride along, and according to Chris Rock, best if he's white.

Some states have outlawed unmarked cars but not all. Because, you see, if the policy of maintaining unmarked police cars results in encouraging a serial rapist to try out his new Starsky and Hutch flashing lights, oh well, the only people affected are non-cops. This policy seems to sit well with them.

[Jorn]

Originally Posted by HuskyMan

I do believe that women should not be out driving alone at night, especially on deserted lonely highways or streets. Better if you can get a male friend to ride along, and according to Chris Rock, best if he's white.

Good point, just like in Saudi Arabia only with a western twist.

[HuskyMan]

Originally Posted by Benzasaurus

I agree with you. Complicity in the system, unwillingness to go after cops, is tied to all kinds of problems. You may/may not know about this. Cops get away with a harrowing amount of domestic abuse, and 40% of police officers' partners experience abuse compared to the national average of 25%.

That is shocking news but not surprising. They are on the list of the top ten professions occupied by sociopaths. Awhile back I was speaking with an Animal Cruelty officer with the Humane Society. She told me about a State cop she had put in jail for abusing his K9 German Shepherd dog. She said the judge issued a permanent order forbidding the State cop from ever owning any type of animal (dog, cat, whatever). Poor dog, I hope they found the dog a good home..........

[Benzasaurus]

I hear you. And I completely agree the reason why there isn't policy reform is because generally the victims are not the people making the policies.

I don't know about the idea that I shouldn't drive alone at night. I'd much rather as a society we told rapists not to rape—and pursue and prosecute them when they do—than tell me I have to limit my life to avoid it. We often try to prevent rape by talking to potential victims rather than changing the culture. Anyway, topic for a different thread.

I'd rather call 911 and explain my situation as I drove to a gas station. I'm a very careful driver (like to drive defensively because I love the car) so that would be a tip off for me if someone came after me to pull me over at 11 at night on a deserted road and I hadn't done anything wrong. That would be a real sink down in the seat and call 911 moment.

But yeah, basically, the police frighten me. They can overreact and most of the time they are above the law. They are also many cases of actual cops raping women in their custody fwiw. Another good reason to have 911 on the phone when you talk with them.

[Skippy]

Since I generally don't believe in speed limits, I don't think that stop should have happened. However, it did happen. And dumbass yelled at cops (bad idea) and touched a cop (very bad idea). I LMFAO watching her get dragged to the squad car. I wonder if she's found out that the citing officer's name is on the citation?

Bottom line: Whatever issue you're having with a LEO, save it all for the judge.

[Jim B.]

Originally Posted by Jorn

Good point, just like in Saudi Arabia only with a western twist.

Women cannot legally drive motor vehicles in Saudi Arabia.