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Old 06-22-2014, 10:36 PM
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This is the video of Daniel Saenz being killed while handcuffed. It's graphic and awful. He was handcuffed at the time.
http://www.news.com.au/world/el-paso-police-officer-jose-flores-caught-on-camera-shooting-handcuffed-prisoner-daniel-saenz/story-fndir2ev-1226960939409

I do think there is a problem with police brutality. Is it Albuquerque where they've shot 37 people in the last couple of years?
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This is the video of Daniel Saenz being killed while handcuffed. It's graphic and awful. He was handcuffed at the time.
El Paso police officer Jose Flores caught on camera shooting handcuffed prisoner Daniel Saenz | News.com.au

I do think there is a problem with police brutality. Is it Albuquerque where they've shot 37 people in the last couple of years?
And a grand jury refused to indict.
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This is the video of Daniel Saenz being killed while handcuffed. It's graphic and awful. He was handcuffed at the time.
El Paso police officer Jose Flores caught on camera shooting handcuffed prisoner Daniel Saenz | News.com.au

I do think there is a problem with police brutality. Is it Albuquerque where they've shot 37 people in the last couple of years?
Sad story. The only difference between a cop pulling the trigger and John Q Citizen pulling the trigger is the cop has a license to kill, John Q does not. In most of these cases, the cop involved is placed on administrative leave for a period of time. Most of the time they walk free of any charges of criminal wrongdoing.

Even if the matter is brought before a Grand Jury, it seems the jurors have a "if the cop pulled the trigger which resulted in death or injury then it must have been justified because cops are never wrong" attitude. It's as though the cops have been granted not only a literal license to kill but the dumb a** jurors give 'em a pass.

Give a man a badge and a gun and for the first time in his life he has some real power. Yesterday he was nobody, today he's somebody. What's the old saying? Absolute power absolutely corrupts?
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:10 AM
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This is the video of Daniel Saenz being killed while handcuffed. It's graphic and awful. He was handcuffed at the time.
El Paso police officer Jose Flores caught on camera shooting handcuffed prisoner Daniel Saenz | News.com.au

I do think there is a problem with police brutality. Is it Albuquerque where they've shot 37 people in the last couple of years?
public execution. they were scared of this guy
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Food for thought. Anyone who has had extreme physical pain and placed on serious pain meds, i.e. Prednisone, Morphine, Codene, Vicodin (there's one that will knock you on your a**) etc. knows that you may not be your real self at all times. Pain is a funny thing, combine it with serious pain meds and it tends to warp the consciousness and morph you into someone you didn't think you you would become.

Had the policy of "To Protect and to Serve" as soon as they heard she was due for hip surgery they should have asked her for her doctor's name and phone number and called the doc to check out her story. If it checked out, all they had to do was let her go with a warning, difuse a situation and watch everyone CALM THE HECK DOWN. But, no these fine examples of public service chose to escalate the incident and create further pain and trauma for her.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:09 AM
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Food for thought. Anyone who has had extreme physical pain and placed on serious pain meds, i.e. Prednisone, Morphine, Codene, Vicodin (there's one that will knock you on your a**) etc. knows that you may not be your real self at all times. Pain is a funny thing, combine it with serious pain meds and it tends to warp the consciousness and morph you into someone you didn't think you you would become.

Had the policy of "To Protect and to Serve" as soon as they heard she was due for hip surgery they should have asked her for her doctor's name and phone number and called the doc to check out her story. If it checked out, all they had to do was let her go with a warning, difuse a situation and watch everyone CALM THE HECK DOWN. But, no these fine examples of public service chose to escalate thing and create further pain and trauma for her.
So your SPECULATION and SWAG is that she was on an unknown drug that altered her consciousness AND she was unable and,/or willing to follow the directions of not to drive? What next? Aliens took over her body?

What did they do? They arrested her after she got physical. Same as any other guy. It is against the law to get physical with a cop in many parts of the world.
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It is against the law to get physical with a cop in many parts of the world.
"If the law supposes that," said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat emphatically in both hands, "the law is a ass—a idiot. If that's the eye of the law, the law is a bachelor; and the worst I wish the law is, that his eye may be opened by experience—by experience."



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Had the policy of "To Protect and to Serve" as soon as they heard she was due for hip surgery they should have asked her for her doctor's name and phone number and called the doc to check out her story. If it checked out, all they had to do was let her go with a warning, difuse a situation and watch everyone CALM THE HECK DOWN. But, no these fine examples of public service chose to escalate the incident and create further pain and trauma for her.
Or just remain very calm like a certain trooper in Maine...
Maine State Trooper - YouTube

No need to call anyone, just relax and laugh at it in private.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:13 AM
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Or just remain very calm like a certain trooper in Maine...
Maine State Trooper - YouTube

No need to call anyone, just relax and laugh at it in private.
That is at his discretion. I don't have to refuse to press charges if you crossed me but that is my call.
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As for the rape thing, I know a few years ago I wouldn't have hesitated to pull over for an unmarked Crown Vic with lights going. It would never have occurred to me it could be someone trying to trick me. But now I would drive to a gas station and pull in, call 911 on speaker while doing it and maybe just go slow in the shoulder while waiting for them to contact the officer. There's no winning. If you stop and ask for ID, if it's a rapist they probably will have a gun and just force you out. I think lots of states have outlawed unmarked cars making traffic stops for this reason.
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As for the rape thing, I know a few years ago I wouldn't have hesitated to pull over for an unmarked Crown Vic with lights going. It would never have occurred to me it could be someone trying to trick me. But now I would drive to a gas station and pull in, call 911 on speaker while doing it and maybe just go slow in the shoulder while waiting for them to contact the officer. There's no winning. If you stop and ask for ID, if it's a rapist they probably will have a gun and just force you out. I think lots of states have outlawed unmarked cars making traffic stops for this reason.

I believe you understand the dilemma. If it looks like a cop car, he dresses like a cop and acts like a cop IS HE REALLY A COP??? A badge and gun carries a LOT of power and most people are intimidated to the point of doing whatever he says to do. I do believe that women should not be out driving alone at night, especially on deserted lonely highways or streets. Better if you can get a male friend to ride along, and according to Chris Rock, best if he's white.

Some states have outlawed unmarked cars but not all. Because, you see, if the policy of maintaining unmarked police cars results in encouraging a serial rapist to try out his new Starsky and Hutch flashing lights, oh well, the only people affected are non-cops. This policy seems to sit well with them.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:16 PM
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I do believe that women should not be out driving alone at night, especially on deserted lonely highways or streets. Better if you can get a male friend to ride along, and according to Chris Rock, best if he's white.

Good point, just like in Saudi Arabia only with a western twist.
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Good point, just like in Saudi Arabia only with a western twist.
Women cannot legally drive motor vehicles in Saudi Arabia.
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