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I gotta give it to spd: "He brought a gun to a fistfight." One major unknown in this drama, surely not a point we could count on GZ to be forthcoming about, is: did GZ flash his gun at TM at any point? One of those, "watch out, I'm armed, you best comply with my instructions until police get here" ? TM could well have had more cause to be in fear of his life. A man not a policeman was following him and (possibly) displayed a gun, certainly was toting one. GZ initiated this drama and played the insecure, naïve fool throughout it. A weak person with unstable mind might be fearful that the large man passing him on the street was approaching to do harm and pull out his portable manliness and shoot him with it. GZ wanted to be tough but couldn't pull it off with MMA training. Mssrs. Smith and Wesson did the trick, however.
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EVERY Jury handling any criminal trial needs to be informed the constitution guarantees them the right to decide the verdict using plain common sense reguardless of what evidence is presented--(and witheld)--or what a defense or prosecuting attorney tells them they must do. They DONT have to be some unwitting tool of so called "justice". Last edited by panZZer; 07-15-2013 at 07:30 PM. |
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I've seen some stupid people with guns but I've never seen or heard of THAT stupid. Is that how you think it went down? Really? Let's take a poll and guess how many agree with you.... ![]() |
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OTOH, it seems unlikely that TM wouldn't have been going for the gun, pinning the gun from the git-go if he knew where it was or if it was there period. Point is, it never would have been more than a fistfight if Z hadn't brought the gun. He brought the deadly force.
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Like I said- I've seen some stupid people- but that is not a likely explanation. Possible? yes. Probable? NO. You know it as well but your passion for "black justice" (or whatever you want to call it)is clouding your logic and making your anger greater. Not a good combination when seeking reality. |
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A good friend of mine has a goofus son who did pretty much that...went to a bar packing, got liquored up, got into a fight, drew his gun on the bouncer and did a couple of years in the pokey over it....lucky for him he didn't shoot anybody.
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