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MTUpower · #1 07-15-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Some people are more prone to fear than others. The part you ignore in that line of thought is: were his fears rational, at any point in the drama? I submit that they were not. His fear led him to create a confrontation, one in which he had deadly force on his person.

I gotta give it to spd: "He brought a gun to a fistfight."

One major unknown in this drama, surely not a point we could count on GZ to be forthcoming about, is: did GZ flash his gun at TM at any point? One of those, "watch out, I'm armed, you best comply with my instructions until police get here" ? TM could well have had more cause to be in fear of his life. A man not a policeman was following him and (possibly) displayed a gun, certainly was toting one. GZ initiated this drama and played the insecure, naïve fool throughout it.
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Yeah, I've got a gun so let's get in a fist fight.

I've seen some stupid people with guns but I've never seen or heard of THAT stupid. Is that how you think it went down? Really? Let's take a poll and guess how many agree with you....

cmac2012 · #2 07-15-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower

Yeah, I've got a gun so let's get in a fist fight.

I've seen some stupid people with guns but I've never seen or heard of THAT stupid. Is that how you think it went down? Really? Let's take a poll and guess how many agree with you....

It's hard to know what happened. There is a good chance that TM became aware of the gun but jumped on GZ before he had the chance to wield it.

OTOH, it seems unlikely that TM wouldn't have been going for the gun, pinning the gun from the git-go if he knew where it was or if it was there period.

Point is, it never would have been more than a fistfight if Z hadn't brought the gun. He brought the deadly force.

MTUpower · #3 07-15-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

It's hard to know what happened. There is a good chance that TM became aware of the gun but jumped on GZ before he had the chance to wield it.

OTOH, it seems unlikely that TM wouldn't have been going for the gun, pinning the gun from the git-go if he knew where it was or if it was there period.

Point is, it never would have been more than a fistfight if Z hadn't brought the gun. He brought the deadly force.

Not the point at all- who is stupid enough to let someone you are suspicious of get close enough to break your nose when you have a gun?

Like I said- I've seen some stupid people- but that is not a likely explanation. Possible? yes. Probable? NO. You know it as well but your passion for "black justice" (or whatever you want to call it)is clouding your logic and making your anger greater. Not a good combination when seeking reality.

t walgamuth · #4 07-15-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower

Yeah, I've got a gun so let's get in a fist fight.

I've seen some stupid people with guns but I've never seen or heard of THAT stupid. Is that how you think it went down? Really? Let's take a poll and guess how many agree with you....

A good friend of mine has a goofus son who did pretty much that...went to a bar packing, got liquored up, got into a fight, drew his gun on the bouncer and did a couple of years in the pokey over it....lucky for him he didn't shoot anybody.