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Old 09-26-2013, 07:59 AM
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And? Everything can disrupt it too. It was disrupted when women entered the workforce, for example. I don't see you calling for women to stay at home, barefoot and pregnant. WWII brought women out. Same thing.
No it wasn't. Mommy is still coming home at night.

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Old 09-26-2013, 08:40 AM
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No it wasn't. Mommy is still coming home at night.
Maybe, maybe not. Daddy isn't the only one that can step out. Regardless the power structure has changed.
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That's not the point...the point was confirmed by MTU once he differentiated between 2 different religions...saying 1 was considered to be violent...and another not.

In essence, his response makes his words hollow when he claims everyone should stand up and speak out against discrimination based on skin color..when in fact by his own admission he is discriminateing against 1 religion based on his assumption that said is violent.

And No, I do not wish to go round and round with you for the next 10 pages...been there,,,it's a zero sum game.
Start your thread about religious discrimination and make a point we can talk about. You have not made any point - so you can't "confirm" a point you did not make. Otherwise there was nothing intelligent which deserves a response- you apparently do not understand that skin color is not a choice but practicing a religion is; or you do understand and you are being an a$$.

By the way- when you are typing and a little red line appears under the word- IT'S MISSPELLED. You don't need to know how to spell- and it's obviously not a strong point of yours- you just need to be able to see the red line. If you can't figure out how to spell it- then google the word and google will show you the proper spelling.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:06 AM
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When you disrupt social hierarchy in families or tribes it's very hard, if not impossible to get it back.
How many Jewish families were "disrupted" in the 1930's and 1940's? How many Irish families were "disrupted" during the great Potato famine? How many Vietnamese families were disrupted during the war there and afterward when they came here? Again more holes than a net in your thinking.
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:21 AM
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How many Jewish families were "disrupted" in the 1930's and 1940's? How many Irish families were "disrupted" during the great Potato famine? How many Vietnamese families were disrupted during the war there and afterward when they came here? Again more holes than a net in your thinking.
What WON'T disrupt things? Everything does. It won't stay at "leave it to Beaver" forever. That structure is gone for the most part.
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I agree that it's not good for people to excuse their own failings, laziness, etc. on something that happened generations ago. But that doesn't mean that there isn't some effect. Irish immigrants did not have their families regularly pulled apart, with various members sent far and wide, and in that day, a family member on a farm 30 miles away may as well have been in Tasmania, particularly regarding slaves. This went on for a century or two, and the Jim Crow era was not exactly a new day in all ways.

Your splitting hairs on the word black regarding the albinos you pictured is on the edge of obnoxious, sorry to tell you. Not sure why you're so obsessed with the issue. Regarding the incident that you described in the OP, I'd go with the advice of Lao Tzu:

He who is wise keeps silent, he who advises is a fool.

A bit of irony here as I'm giving advice just by saying it. Somehow it seems different in this setting, that is, anonymous and at some distance.
Please define "black".
Here's one- To be considered black in the United States not even half of one's ancestry must be African black. But will one-fourth do, or one-eighth, or less? The nation's answer to the question 'Who is black?" has long been that a black is any person with any known African black ancestry. This definition reflects the long experience with slavery and later with Jim Crow segregation. In the South it became known as the "one-drop rule,'' meaning that a single drop of "black blood" makes a person a black. It is also known as the "one black ancestor rule," some courts have called it the "traceable amount rule," and anthropologists call it the "hypo-descent rule," meaning that racially mixed persons are assigned the status of the subordinate group. ...

By this definition my whole family is black; and far more people are "black" than anyone thinks.

Are you saying Irish families were not "disrupted" during the potato famine and again when it appeared it would return in 1879?

Obnoxious? Really? It's a simple point that "black" people don't have to have a dark skin color; or look "black" to you. Something tells me you think that all "black" people are, um... black!
I submit that categorizing people by race is subjective to each individual person- who chooses to categorize them. You CAN choose to not do this.
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:01 AM
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Start your thread about religious discrimination and make a point we can talk about. You have not made any point - so you can't "confirm" a point you did not make. Otherwise there was nothing intelligent which deserves a response- you apparently do not understand that skin color is not a choice but practicing a religion is; or you do understand and you are being an a$$.

By the way- when you are typing and a little red line appears under the word- IT'S MISSPELLED. You don't need to know how to spell- and it's obviously not a strong point of yours- you just need to be able to see the red line. If you can't figure out how to spell it- then google the word and google will show you the proper spelling.
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