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Old 04-20-2014, 09:56 PM
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The government overreacted. Period. They could have just arrested the guy.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:57 PM
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:03 PM
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Honest day in court may not be available now due to their handling of the issue.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:13 PM
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Honest day in court may not be available now due to their handling of the issue.
So you suspect they will bring criminal charges against him??
Otherwise, I think his day in court has already happened.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:24 PM
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Interesting read...
Outlines the negative impacts caused by Bundy's trespass cattle.
Didn't realize that it has cost over half a million in matching grants as well as having generated a considerable number of complaints.
Not to mention him digging unauthorized reservoirs with a bulldozer.
http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/public_lands/grazing/pdfs/Northeast-Clark-County-Cattle-Trespass.pdf
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:46 AM
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Federal agencies went out-of-control under the free reign of leftists Obama and Clinton - anything goes. Shoot to kill. This is no surprise what is happening.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:42 AM
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Federal agencies went out-of-control under the free reign of leftists Obama and Clinton - anything goes. Shoot to kill. This is no surprise what is happening.
No 8 years of Bush in between? Don't fool your self.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:51 AM
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Federal agencies went out-of-control under the free reign of leftists Obama and Clinton - anything goes. Shoot to kill. This is no surprise what is happening.
My recollection was that all this military equipment was actually FUNDED by the LEAA ("Law Enforcement Assistance Administration") that was given a budget allotment for all this SWAT (Special Weapons and Tactics") crap for local law enforcement.

If you worked for ANY branch of the Government, and knew anything about department budgets, you'd know that if you were given ANY amount of money in the budget for anything, SOP was that you'd better SPEND ALL of it;

Otherwise, you are running the risk of getting less or nothing - even if you needed it badly, the NEXT fiscal year.

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And for Pete's sake, leave partisanship (laying the blame at Clinton's and Obama's feet PERSONALLY for this) out of this, won't you please? That has gotten really really tiresome and old.

My recollection is that the LEAA got started, and got tons of $$$ to dole out, when Ronald Reagan - the darling of the Republican Right - was President.

IMO the blame transcends partisan politics, no need to throw that kind of thing into the mix.


It's SOP that Government agencies want to keep getting more money for their budgets: whether it's needed or appropriate or fiscally sound is basically irrelevant to them.

I - a retired Govt. employee, personally know that for a fact. I witnessed it and actually heard the actual words spoken! The waste of tax dollars like that is unspeakable... I hope you agree.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:16 PM
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My recollection was that all this military equipment was actually FUNDED by the LEAA ("Law Enforcement Assistance Administration") that was given a budget allotment for all this SWAT (Special Weapons and Tactics") crap for local law enforcement.

If you worked for ANY branch of the Government, and knew anything about department budgets, you'd know that if you were given ANY amount of money in the budget for anything, SOP was that you'd better SPEND ALL of it;

Otherwise, you are running the risk of getting less or nothing - even if you needed it badly, the NEXT fiscal year.

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And for Pete's sake, leave partisanship (laying the blame at Clinton's and Obama's feet PERSONALLY for this) out of this, won't you please? That has gotten really really tiresome and old.

My recollection is that the LEAA got started, and got tons of $$$ to dole out, when Ronald Reagan - the darling of the Republican Right - was President.

IMO the blame transcends partisan politics, no need to throw that kind of thing into the mix.


It's SOP that Government agencies want to keep getting more money for their budgets: whether it's needed or appropriate or fiscally sound is basically irrelevant to them.

I - a retired Govt. employee, personally know that for a fact. I witnessed it and actually heard the actual words spoken! The waste of tax dollars like that is unspeakable... I hope you agree.
Exactly right.
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Old 04-21-2014, 03:47 AM
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Federal agencies went out-of-control under the free reign of leftists Obama and Clinton - anything goes. Shoot to kill. This is no surprise what is happening.
They don't have a right to self-defense? The populace is more and more heavily armed and often hostile to govt. edict. It could be argued that the degree of the former is roughly linked to the latter.
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Old 04-21-2014, 02:48 PM
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Federal agencies went out-of-control under the free reign of leftists Obama and Clinton - anything goes. Shoot to kill. This is no surprise what is happening.
Who was President Aug 21, 1992?
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:14 PM
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Who was President Aug 21, 1992?
It is not about the President, per se: it is about the permanant ruling junta in DC. The professional political feds who run the day to day operations year after year.
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Old 04-21-2014, 10:04 AM
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"Mesquite golf course damaged by trespass cattle."


I see this as a good thing: A golf course is a waste of good pasture space.....
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Old 04-21-2014, 10:30 AM
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"Mesquite golf course damaged by trespass cattle."


I see this as a good thing: A golf course is a waste of good pasture space.....
I bet you would not think so if it were yours and you were paying your rent.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:27 PM
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I bet you would not think so if it were yours and you were paying your rent.
dear god, can't you see tongue in cheek humor?
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