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Air&Road · #**811** 05-02-2014, 07:43 AM

I said several times in this thread that there must be more than what meets the eye.

Reid Bunkerville LLC Exposed: Is This Why Bundy Ranch Was Targeted? | Politics

I fully expect that this is only a tiny bit of the iceberg that is beneath the surface.

aklim · #**812** 05-02-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

I said several times in this thread that there must be more than what meets the eye.

Reid Bunkerville LLC Exposed: Is This Why Bundy Ranch Was Targeted? | Politics

I fully expect that this is only a tiny bit of the iceberg that is beneath the surface.

Had he paid in full, you may have something. That he has not only paid ZERO but still continue to freeloader, I don't see what the relevant information from the link is.

Jorn · #**813** 05-02-2014, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

I said several times in this thread that there must be more than what meets the eye.

Is that another way of saying: I don't know ***** about it, but I have an opinion about it anyway?

Air&Road · #**814** 05-02-2014, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

Is that another way of saying: I don't know ***** about it, but I have an opinion about it anyway?

No. It's saying that there is MUCH lying beneath the surface that we don't know about. I'm surprised that you could not understand the simple statement that I wrote.

Skippy · #**815** 05-02-2014, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

I said several times in this thread that there must be more than what meets the eye.

Reid Bunkerville LLC Exposed: Is This Why Bundy Ranch Was Targeted? | Politics

I fully expect that this is only a tiny bit of the iceberg that is beneath the surface.

Interesting. Perhaps Mr. Bundy should have paid his rent.

P.C. · #**816** 05-02-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

No. It's saying that there is MUCH lying beneath the surface that we don't know about. I'm surprised that you could not understand the simple statement that I wrote.

Perhaps he isn't simple.

elchivito · #**817** 05-02-2014, 05:37 PM

Harry Reid owns some land several MILES from Bundy's allotment.

OOOOOHHHHH!!!

Diesel911 · #**818** 05-02-2014, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

I said several times in this thread that there must be more than what meets the eye.

Reid Bunkerville LLC Exposed: Is This Why Bundy Ranch Was Targeted? | Politics

I fully expect that this is only a tiny bit of the iceberg that is beneath the surface.

Good job finding more information and bringing the thread back on track.

If the the possible complicity issue is ignored and the Land is infact becoming more valuable it entirly makes sense to get Bundy off the Publilc Land.
Think of it as Public Housing and Bundy is supposed to be payiny rent on a House. The amount he is supppsed to pay is low so you don't activly presue eviciton.
Now the Land the Housing is on becomes more valuable and you can get more rent for it from People who are going to actually pay and you decide to start activly presuing the eviction.

The complicity of the Senator owning some of the Land in an area where the Land may be going up in value may or may not be foul depending on how long the Land has been owned by the Senator and what political things were done and by whom to get cause that particular area to suddenly become under development.

aklim · #**819** 05-02-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

No. It's saying that there is MUCH lying beneath the surface that we don't know about. I'm surprised that you could not understand the simple statement that I wrote.

So now we need to resort to speculation, innuendo and SWAGs because we need a red herring?

aklim · #**820** 05-02-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

Harry Reid owns some land several MILES from Bundy's allotment.

OOOOOHHHHH!!!

How so? You didn't pay so what is your allotment again? That is like saying you didn't pay rent but you claim to live there?

aklim · #**821** 05-02-2014, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

If the the possible complicity issue is ignored and the Land is infact becoming more valuable it entirly makes sense to get Bundy off the Publilc Land. Think of it as Public Housing and Bundy is supposed to be payiny rent on a House. The amount he is supppsed to pay is low so you don't activly presue eviciton. Now the Land the Housing is on becomes more valuable and you can get more rent for it from People who are going to actually pay and you decide to start activly presuing the eviction.

The complicity of the Senator owning some of the Land in an area where the Land may be going up in value may or may not be foul depending on how long the Land has been owned by the Senator and what political things were done and by whom to get cause that particular area to suddenly become under development.

I believe I suggested that scenario way back when.

And yet when it is said that because Cheney used to work for Company X, he has an ax to grind it is different?

Diesel911 · #**822** 05-02-2014, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I believe I suggested that scenario way back when.

And yet when it is said that because Cheney used to work for Company X, he has an ax to grind it is different?

I agree. Don't pay your rent and at some point you get evicted.

P.C. · #**823** 05-02-2014, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

I said several times in this thread that there must be more than what meets the eye.

Reid Bunkerville LLC Exposed: Is This Why Bundy Ranch Was Targeted? | Politics

I fully expect that this is only a tiny bit of the iceberg that is beneath the surface.

Your deflection skills need a little work.

cmac2012 · #**824** 05-03-2014, 02:22 AM

I-Team: Police say Bundy ranch protesters not off the hook - 8 News NOW

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LAS VEGAS -- Metro Police officers who were on the front lines of a recent showdown near the Bundy ranch in Bunkerville say they feared for their lives.

At least some of the militia members who pointed weapons at police officers during the confrontation may have wanted a violent outcome and tried to incite one.

In exclusive interviews with the 8 News NOW I-Team, officers who were on the scene shared their thoughts and fears, and they say it is not over.

"These guys with rifles, keep them calm," was Clark County Assistant Sheriff Joe Lombardo's request to one of Bundy's sons the day of the confrontation.

Lombardo's top priority was to prevent a spark that might set off a bloody firefight.

"There was a possibility of somebody just having an accidental discharge causing a blood bath, because the individuals that were showing up, the militia quote unquote, were armed to the teeth," Lombardo said.

On one side, armed federal rangers and agents, on the other, a huge crowd of angry militia members and in the middle, 30 Metro officers, exposed and vulnerable, aware that if the shooting began, some of them would die.

"You are standing there going, 'I just hope it doesn't hurt when it comes. That it's quick,' and it was real for us. It was real," Sgt. Tom Jenkins said.

"(You thought you might die?) Yeah." Sgt. Jenkins said.

Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie has been negotiating behind the scenes with rancher Cliven Bundy for a couple of years. On the morning of the big showdown, he and Joe Lombardo drove to Bunkerville to let Bundy know that a deal had been reached with Bureau of Land Management to suspend the roundup of Bundy's cattle.

Bundy, who has grown accustomed to media attention over the past few months, said he would only talk to Gillespie on stage in front of his crowd. Once there, he ordered the sheriff to go out and disarm every fed he could find.

"And report back in an hour. Disarm everyone working at a federal park," Bundy told the sheriff.

"I mean, the hair was up on the back of my neck. There was the so-called militia surrounding the stage. There was a lot of firepower out there and it made me nervous. anything could happen," Lombardo said.

Gillspie and Lombardo say they offered to provide Bundy with legal counsel---free. He turned it down and later urged the crowd to go after his cattle.

"Mr. Bundy, in my personal opinion, incited the crowd," Lombardo said.

Some of them didn't need much to get riled. Their hostility toward government was on full display. A few equate the BLM with Nazis.

"That bunch, the SS squad or something to do with Hitler, shouldn't have guns there aimed at the people," one man at the showdown said.

They were equally hostile to journalists covering the story. Pistol-packing militia men have blocked 8 News NOW's access to public roads. Some poured lighter fluid around our news vehicle while others got physical.

A few Oath keepers said they were told the White House had ordered a drone missile strike on the Bundy camp. In an atmosphere this hostile and paranoid, guns pointed at police became the norm.

"At some point, you have to draw a line in the sand. I guess this is it," one militia member said.

"They're armed, they have an agenda, and they're committed to whatever they believe in, no backing down. One or two of them would never have done what they did--point weapons at us--but when you have 300-400 and they can be anonymous in a crowd, you get caught up in that," Sgt. Jenkins said.

Lombardo confirms that Metro developed a lot of intelligence about militia members who were present. Those who aimed their guns at officers will be dealt with.

"Yes, there will be consequences, definitely. That is unacceptable behavior. If we let it go, it will continue into the future," Lombardo said.

Law enforcement sources told us that federal officials are preparing to move against Cliven Bundy, but they might wait months until things die down before making their move.

Metro Police could take separate action in response to the provocations they experienced in Bunkerville and may be working to identify particular suspects.

Medmech · #**825** 05-03-2014, 06:44 AM

From what I gather many of you think its OK for the government to respond with violence for failure to pay taxes, with that said is it OK if they break down your door for you failing to pay taxes? I'd like to see a show of hands of everyone that reports all of their own taxes due including online purchases.