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aklim · #**391** 04-19-2014, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Yes those things would be important to know, but they are not being sought because it might get in the way of the corrupt liberal government, their lap dog media and their blind followers.

Exactly why is it important to know? If I am renting from you and I find your rent too high and you won't budge, should I continue to use the facilities or move? Thought you were the "pay to play" sort of person or is it simply only if the cause is one of your pet causes?

Air&Road · #**392** 04-19-2014, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

What does it matter? If your rent fee is too high, I move out or pay it.

I would wait for those numbers to come out before making such an
Assumption. If they just raised them a reasonable amount to keep up with inflation or even a little more then you are correct. If OTOH, they raised them out of sight then that would indicate they were trying to run him off so they could line their pockets due to some other plan.

I've been saying all along that it is highly likely if not almost. Retain that there is something going on in the background that is not being made known and if so is probably soaked with corruption.

aklim · #**393** 04-19-2014, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

I would wait for those numbers to come out before making such an
Assumption. If they just raised them a reasonable amount to keep up with inflation or even a little more then you are correct. If OTOH, they raised them out of sight then that would indicate they were trying to run him off so they could line their pockets due to some other plan.

I've been saying all along that it is highly likely if not almost. Retain that there is something going on in the background that is not being made known and if so is probably soaked with corruption.

It matters little. If you can't pay, you move. How much more complicated is it?

Air&Road · #**394** 04-19-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

It matters little. If you can't pay, you move. How much more complicated is it?

You're smarter than that. If they were trying to run off there was most likely something crooked behind it. If this were to turn out to be true would you have no problem with such corruption.

NC-Diesel · #**395** 04-19-2014, 08:42 PM

I hope they do show back up. Take his cows and sell it for the back grazing fees he owes. Regan no less signed the executive order directing the BLM to collect the fees. As I understand it they barely and usually don't cover the cost of upkeep on the land. The guy is a moocher. No better than the welfare cheats. If he hates the government so much he should quit using the government land and go buy his own. That is his right. This aint the oklahoma land rush. He can't just go plant a flag in public lands and proclaim his own kingdom. If I were the feds I'd just go in with the national gaurd and take the cows out. Then garnish his bank account for what he owes, sell the cows and apply that too. Then send him a check or bill for what is left minus all the court costs and law enforcement expenditures. This guy acting like davey crocket at the alamo is going to cost a small fortune there est of us will have to pay for his little last stand.

Air&Road · #**396** 04-19-2014, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NC-Diesel

I hope they do show back up. Take his cows and sell it for the back grazing fees he owes. Regan no less signed the executive order directing the BLM to collect the fees. As I understand it they barely and usually don't cover the cost of upkeep on the land. The guy is a moocher. No better than the welfare cheats. If he hates the government so much he should quit using the government land and go buy his own. That is his right. This aint the oklahoma land rush. He can't just go plant a flag in public lands and proclaim his own kingdom. If I were the feds I'd just go in with the national gaurd and take the cows out. Then garnish his bank account for what he owes, sell the cows and apply that too. Then send him a check or bill for what is left minus all the court costs and law enforcement expenditures. This guy acting like davey crocket at the alamo is going to cost a small fortune there est of us will have to pay for his little last stand.

You can make a very good case for selling his cattle, but you can't make a case for just taking them out and murdering them. The Feds murdered two of his best bulls. Nobody gains with that except the Feds get to show just how powerful the Gestapo is.

aklim · #**397** 04-19-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

You're smarter than that. If they were trying to run off there was most likely something crooked behind it. If this were to turn out to be true would you have no problem with such corruption.

That is another story. I don't mingle several items together and try figure one out. Corruption has not been proven and at this point, it is little more than a red herring.

aklim · #**398** 04-19-2014, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

You can make a very good case for selling his cattle, but you can't make a case for just taking them out and murdering them. The Feds murdered two of his best bulls. Nobody gains with that except the Feds get to show just how powerful the Gestapo is.

If you want to keep and feed them, you should have volunteered your services. He had ample opportunity to make his case heard in court since he had an invite. You do believe in using a court to settle disputes, do you not?

Air&Road · #**399** 04-19-2014, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

If you want to keep and feed them, you should have volunteered your services. He had ample opportunity to make his case heard in court since he had an invite. You do believe in using a court to settle disputes, do you not?

I said nothing about ANYONE keeping them and feeding them. I talked about selling them to offset his debt. Who gains from just murdering them and leaving them for the buzzards? Only the Gestapo gains because they get to show everyone that they can.

Air&Road · #**400** 04-19-2014, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

That is another story. I don't mingle several items together and try figure one out. Corruption has not been proven and at this point, it is little more than a red herring.

The WHOLE THING stinks to high heaven of corruption. With the press on the lefts side it will never come out, but it's not hard to understand that we are seeing only the tip of the iceberg.

davidmash · #**401** 04-19-2014, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

You can make a very good case for selling his cattle, but you can't make a case for just taking them out and murdering them. The Feds murdered two of his best bulls. Nobody gains with that except the Feds get to show just how powerful the Gestapo is.

Cattle cannot be murdered. They can be killed. If you do not know the difference then look it up. Using inflammatory language out of context does not support your case.

aklim · #**402** 04-19-2014, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

I said nothing about ANYONE keeping them and feeding them. I talked about selling them to offset his debt. Who gains from just murdering them and leaving them for the buzzards? Only the Gestapo gains because they get to show everyone that they can.

You will have to explain how easy that will be to do. It is a ROYAL PITA for me to sue you to get what is mine not to mention garnishment. It isn't as easy as you make it out to be.

Making an example out of him isn't bad either. I mean, we send people to prison as a "what not to do" or is that OK because you don't like that crime but you have a soft spot for this guy?

aklim · #**403** 04-19-2014, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

The WHOLE THING stinks to high heaven of corruption. With the press on the lefts side it will never come out, but it's not hard to understand that we are seeing only the tip of the iceberg.

You of course have proof since it would be not be good to make wild accusations.

aklim · #**404** 04-19-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

Cattle cannot be murdered. They can be killed. If you do not know the difference then look it up. Using inflammatory language out of context does not support your case.

What case? What are you seeing that can be exaggerated to be a case? Wild speculation and innuendo doesn't strike me as a case. Next he will blame Putin for this because somehow, a relative wanted that piece of land and Putin was willing to grant a favor in exchange for something.

davidmash · #**405** 04-19-2014, 10:56 PM

I suspect he will blame Obama before Putin. If I recall there was a thread where Larry indicated he admired Putin.