I really can't believe some people. Use a prohibited device to keep another airline passenger from being able to recline their seat, then press the point until the flight ends up diverted.

I'd be in favor of legislation that would require such *****************s (fill in your favorite pejorative term(s)) to have to reimburse the airline for the cost of fuel and landing fees related to the diversion.

Either that or just chuck them out at 37,000 feet.

Article: United Jet Diverted as Fliers Fight Over Knee Defender Device - NBC News

The seats should be in a fixed position. I get smooshed by some idiot every time I fly.

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YES !!! ...and if the airlines won't lock seats, carry a set of blockers

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I'm somewhat tall, and I can tolerate the seat in the upright position.

So, when a pax drops the seat in front of me, (and this action depends on the level of interference with my body), I just start to slouch a bit, and let my knees constantly bump and fidget into the back of the seat. Remember how annoying it is to have a kid in back of you kicking the seatback......

If I have to vacate the seat, I make sure to use the top of the seat in front of me to leverage my out.

Ooops, sorry....

Sometimes they ge the hint, sometimes not. but I do get some satisfaction knowing that they are getting bumped around.

Fault really lies with the carrier, if you are going to jam people in, don't let the seats recline.

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Flying is a cattle call and it sucks, granted. Moo. But reclining the seats is rude and inconsiderate? I don't fly commercial anymore unless it unavoidable. Then I usually sleep on the plane.

Have things changed that much since the early 90's? Last time I was on that airport/rental car/hotel hamster wheel.

I wonder. How big are you people and can you really not function with seats reclined in front of you? Is it a body mass issue?

It is kinda sad to hear. I grew up on airplanes back in the early sixties and got to see the Golden Age. Flying was a luxury.

Bolt upright. I'm hella short and this position works best for me.

I first flew commercial in 1993 when I was 15. Security has gotten more annoying, and the meals have pretty much gone away. Aside from that I don't think much has changed.

5'2" and 160 lbs. I find it a minor annoyance if the person in front of me fully reclines their seat. Being seated next to a screaming kid is much much worse. That time I had to fly from Kuwait International to Hartsfield sandwiched in between two 6'+ 200+ lb dudes wasn't exactly great either.

I missed that by a couple decades and kind of wonder what it was like. I also missed trans-oceanic crossings by ship being a common thing. While it certainly took longer, I think that was probably a more comfortable way to travel, unless you were poor and stuck in steerage.

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my Dad worked for American Airlines so i grew up flying in the 70's we flew stand-by so sometimes we would not get on airplanes and we would spend lots of time in airport terminals(Dallas-Ft Worth) but we almost always flew in first class (very nice in those days) and because my dad was an airline employee, we had to dress nice and if we saw someone on the plane in (gasp)shorts and or a tee shirt we were shocked :0

Ahh, Life is like a voyage on the Titanic. So you might as well fly FIRST CLASS !!!!

It is nice; though in the old days, the "First Class" section used to seem that it was full of loudly crying babys smoking very expensive cigars!

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That's me, too, Jim. It works slowly but often effectively.

btw, airlines have been shrinking hte seating for some time:


A skirmish for space on planes makes for even tighter squeeze, smaller seats - Business - The Boston Globe

Im 6'3" and I do the same thing. If you are going to make me uncomfortable then you will join me.

I also.agree that it's the airline fault for craving the seats in like they do.

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Unless you bought the ticket for the seat in front of you, you have no say over how the person who did uses it.

If you put a set of blockers on my seat, they would be removed, and you with them.

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Then be a bit smarter than the idiots and change your actions so you are not "smooshed", right?

They should have diverted to some podunk airport with a long runway (ex SAC base, anyone?) and left them there. Good luck renting a car or getting on another flight.

And people wonder why I prefer to drive whenever possible.

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