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Old 01-11-2001, 09:45 PM
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Ok, heres what happend. Yesterday I was driving my car and the car just all of a sudden started driving like it wasnt getting any fuel, this only happend for about 2 mins and started driving like normal again so I didnt think anything of it. Anyhoo, this morning I went outside and the car started right up and I let it warm up for about 2 minutes or so and started to back up, when again the car felt like it wasnt getting any fuel, well the car died and now refuses to even fire. Im pretty sure that it is nothing in the fuel system (because most of the fuel system is only about 2 months old). Question is, could it be the ignition system? Like can the coil just quit and not give any juice at all, or maybe the distributor cap and rotor? Also, the fuel pump relay is also only about a 2 months old and I can hear the fuel pump run when I turn the key on, and I had my friend try to start it and I could also hear it run while it was trying to start. No visible fuel leaks and I have a full tank of gas. Thanks for your help in advance. I love my car but it picked one of the worse time to act up on me.
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Old 01-11-2001, 10:00 PM
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pezzy - how old

is the alternator? I would take a look at it and see if it is working.
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Well, I dont think its the alternator cause the battery still has enough juice to try to start it again, even after my 7 or so tries (good thing they put those huge 880cca batterys in there). Im not even going to mess with this, I had an appointment tommorrow to get my wheel bearing replaced, so I called them and they said they could try to figure out why it wont start also. Im not too worried about the fuel system cause all the stuff that was replaced is still under warranty, I am just praying that it isnt something major somewhere else in the car.
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Old 01-11-2001, 11:40 PM
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I had the same problem on an 85 300e. Turned out to be the relay that sits behind the battery. Remove the plastic cover in back of the battery and you will see it, just to the right. There are two relays and I believe it's the one that's marked Klima, although my recollection on that could be wrong.
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Old 01-12-2001, 12:18 AM
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Fuel Pump Relay

Look for threads containing those words. I'm working from dim memory, but I believe that the fuel pump relay is the relay (of the two you will find behind the battery) that has a small fuse on the top. My fuel pump relay failed on Halloween night in a bad neighborhood with a car full of 6-year old princesses. Your symptoms resemble mine nearly exactly, although my car died intermittently a few times before the relay died completely.

[Edited by dtanesq on 01-11-2001 at 11:28 PM]
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Old 01-12-2001, 05:22 AM
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First of all, it's not the one with "Klima" on it. Klima is AC in German. That's the AC clutch relay.

Check the following:

1. When you turn the ignition you should hear the fuel pump turn on for a few seconds. If you can hear it, the fuel pump relay shouldn't be the problem. It is the black one next to "Klima". You can bridge the pump. Remeber this is just for testing you can't drive it becasue the pump will never shut off. Take off the relay and bridge input jacks 7 and 8 with a small piece of wire. This should energize the pump. You can try starting it. If it doesn't energize then your problem is the pump itself.

2. Check the overvoltage protection relay. It's the one with the 10amp fuse on top of it. The first step is to check the fuse. The problem with this relay is that if you unplug it completely the car won't start. If the fuse is blown the car should turn on with either a rough or high idle. Unless your relay is completely fried your car should start.

3. Check the crankshaft position sensor plug on the EZL. EZL is a black box mounted right above the ABS pump. It has three plugs. The smallest one (one pole) is the crank position sensor. Check if it is loose. Clean it and get something sharp to bend the contact points on the female side (on the wire) connector.

One of these should solve your problem.

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Old 01-13-2001, 03:42 AM
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Thanks Vin

As I said in my post, I was working from dim memory. Too dim as it turns out.
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