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Old 05-05-2001, 03:41 PM
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Brothers of the Benz, how often are we drivers of the Famous W124 reminded of the inferior headlights that the U.S. configuration has.
How many of us have modified the power supplying wires using 8 or 10 ga. wire and auxillary relays in an attempt to brighten our way.
Me, as so many others have taken my plain and simple way to get more light. (if you would like to have the instructions for this modification, contact me visa e-mail)
We know where the ultimate modification is.
Euros, at a very high cost to impliment.
There are used OEM units available, but the savings isn't so great.
Comes the DAWN. Why do we feel we must have OEM? Why not grey market? That wouldn't be any different that using a G.E. headlamp in a G.M. auto rather than a Delco- Remy.
How close do we members of Mercedes Benz Club of America read the Classified Section in the Star?
Issue March/April 2001,page 108, right column, second add from the bottom.
Tigris Intnl. New Euro Headlight(grey market)w-124 complete(less bulbs, I'm using 100/80w xeonon in my new toys) $145.00 each.
In my conversation with the owner he suggested he might take the OEM units in trade.
Not too bad $290.00 minus trade allowance.
Happy Trails Beep Beep from the Spiderman of Houston!!!
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Old 05-05-2001, 05:08 PM
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Don,

A lot of people were worried about you. You should go to the Open Discussion Forum to see the threads about how much we missed you...
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Old 05-05-2001, 07:43 PM
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Yes, never mind the headlights, how the hell are ya? Good to have you back!
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Old 05-06-2001, 06:55 AM
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Hello Donald and welcome back.

I do read the STAR carefully I suppose because I did see that ad and bought my euro lights from them. Most other people sell them as a whole set with the light bulbs and side markers and dont separate them.

I already have clear sidemarkers so what would I want with and extra pair of yellows ones? Also since I wanted to use PIAA bulbs, what would extra pair of factory style bulbs do for me? So instead of having all this extra stuff laying around the basement, I decided to get my euro from Tigris.

I had also checked out a place called Adsit. I did some searches on the forum and found out yuo had mentioned them before. I was going to get a pair of used from them, but I really didnt like the idea of used ones. I have all new paint, front end, clear sidemarkers, grille, bumper, etc. on my car and used headlights wouldnt look too good.
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Old 05-11-2001, 06:18 PM
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Brother of The Benz, Johnson.
Has the weather started to get warm?
I'm satisfied with my H/L and I too didn't want the extra pieces after replacing them with better ones.
It's hard to believe we bought grey market for less than used OEM.
Thank You for your well wishes,
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Old 05-11-2001, 08:25 PM
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Cleaning headlight reflectors

Hi everyone
I'd be grateful to hear from the experts, as to the best way of cleaning the headlight reflectors on my 1991 190E.
(I guess that my car has "Euro" lights). The lights are great, but they're showing signs of haziness on the reflectors after ten years use. Any ideas? Meths? Detergent?
I am fascinated by this wonderful forum, and it's required reading for me every day. Thanks everyone.
Murray Blackwood.
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Old 05-12-2001, 01:10 AM
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Hello Donald,

The weather is great here, thanks for asking.

I still havnt got a chance to install my euros yet. Dent wizard was working on the roof of my car and broke the sunroof cable, motor, tracks, etc. My cars been in the dealer for over a week. I am hoping to get it back soon.

So far I like the grey market headlights. They are brand new and they are cheaper than used MB ones. I didnt know they were grey market till I got them in the mail, but if they work ok, then its fine with me.

As far as teh headlight they shouldnt haze or discolor because they are made of glass. Are you sure yours are euro lights and no US headlights? If they are glass, then you would use a good cleaner and then apply a glass polish and maybe apply rain x to it. If your car is a 91 and there has been no modifications then its the US headlights. The only way to make those look real good is by replacing them. But if you look at it, the cost for replacement lens is almost $200.00, for a hundred dolllars more, you can get new headlight assemblies!
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Old 05-12-2001, 03:03 AM
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murray,

if your headlamps are euros, then you can easily remove the lens to get to the reflectors.

Though i don't know what to use to make them shiny again, i have a question for you: are they hazy on the top or bottom part of the reflector? The low beam uses the top part mostly, and if that part is still shiny then it still is useful for at least 90% of the time you use your lights.

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Old 05-12-2001, 03:29 AM
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Headlight clean

bobbyv
Thanks for your response. I'll have a closer examination tomorrow and get back to you with a reply.
What is the method of removing the lens ?
Cheers, Murray.
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Old 05-12-2001, 03:52 AM
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murray,

the lens is fastened to the lamp by plastic clips on the top and bottom of the lens. The top clips are readily accessible, but I believe that you might need to loosen the entire lamp assembly just to get to the bottom clips.

(do a search on this forum for tips or pictures/URLs on the removal of the lamp assembly)

BE CAREFUL THOUGH: your plastic clips are likely brittle by now, so pry them open gently.

once you remove the lens then you can clean both the inside of the lens and the reflectors (main and fog). Of course you know that you should steer clear of those bulbs - never touch them.

the lens just snaps back into place when reinstalling.

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Old 05-12-2001, 11:38 AM
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Grey Market Euros

Brother of The Benz
Murrey, I would recommend do as most us have or intend doing; Replace your headlight assembly with new Euros.
There has always been the desire to clean the reflector and I've never heard of it being done successfully.
The reflective coating is a bright metal; typically aluminum or tungsten.
It is applied by vapor depositing in a vacuum chamber via an Electron Beam Vaporizer.
In the past the mere touching of the bright surface created a dulled spot and trying to clean the surface lessend the reflectivity.
There may be others on The Forum who can relate to the latest method.
If you intend to disassemble the light body, take head about the retaining clips being brittle and heat them using a hot air gun or at least a hair drier.
Happy Trails Beep Beep from The Spiderman in Houston!!!
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Old 05-12-2001, 08:18 PM
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Headlight clean

Thanks Johnson, bobbyv & dlswnfrd (Don?),

I've had a close look at the extent of dullness, and it is fairly evenly dispersed...top and bottom.
I appreciate your point, about the delicacy of the front silvered surface, Don, and I'm concerned too about the holding clips being brittle. Looks like new units when I can afford them! Thanks to you all.
Murray. (NZ).
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Old 05-13-2001, 11:44 PM
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Grey Market

Brother of The Benz, Murrey
Don't feel as though you will slight yourself by purchasing grey market Euros.
You can pocket half the cost of OEM Euros and have equal lights.
Happy Trailsd Beep Beep from The Spiderman in Houston!!!
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