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Old 08-12-2001, 12:44 AM
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Oil pan change without the engine hoist???

I just finished replacing the motor mount engine brackets that were broken from collision damage (my "project" 1988 300E). I now only need to replace the oil pan that was split from coming down on the cross member. As car is in the air and jack is under motor, the idea from another searched post really appealed to me. The post indicated that I could undo the motor mounts from the bottom, lift motor and place wood blocks under mounts and lower motor to its higher temporary position and after removing jack, remove pan and replace. Both Haynes and Technibooks manuals only indicate hoist method which I do not own and would like to avoid renting.

Questions: How high does motor need to be resting above its normal position to facilitate removal of pan? Also, am I missing anything else other than disconnecting the various things that are attached to the pan and getting a new gasket (from Fastlane)?

All help is much appreciated.
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Old 08-12-2001, 10:50 AM
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Sounds like it should work to me on the removal, however, it has been my experience that it requires a great deal of manuvering to get the mount bolts aligned upon reassembly requiring the use of a hoist. You might consider renting one for the day when you get everything back in order.
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Old 08-13-2001, 02:36 PM
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Thanks for help.

Appreciate your help Southern Son. Looks like quite an apparatus in the picture. Where were you putting that engine? Looks like a good one to stuff into a 190!!!

As to my project, my motor is currently remounted. I was able to return motor to proper position from where it was (pushed 2 1/2 inches toward rear) with jack and persuasion so I believe remounting after oil pan replacement should not be a problem. I am also considering using jackstands on the mounts at the temporary higher position for taking out oil pan instead of wooden blocks.

Big question remains however, and that is how much higher than normal does motor need to be, to slip oil pan out for replacement?
(How many additional inches of clearance above crossmember is needed? (Although I could just measure thick part of pan, I don't know how much any internals hang below pan/block level that would need to be taken into account).

The reason this is a concern is that as I will be using oil pan on jack to lift motor, once it is supported and I loosen oil pan there will be no way to lift motor any higher without reinstalling oil pan and jacking up again.

If any one has done this and remembers how much engine was raised or any other helpful information, it would be much appreciated as this is the last thing needed (other than trans, coolant and oil refills) before test run with car.

Thanks for help.
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Old 08-13-2001, 06:37 PM
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I am not sure how much initial clearance you will need. Sorry, wish I could help. Of course, it is all just a matter of rigging. Sounds like you might be a pretty good rigger, yourself. "I love it when a plan comes together."

Picture is of '81 380SL motor. I had to remove it to replace a few things, including double row chain.
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