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Old 09-22-2009, 11:37 AM
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AMM will be about $450 from the dealer or about $250 from this site. I bought mine from here, to support the site. Don't bother with the cheap ($100 or less) ones on eBay, they are new and good quality, but are typically the wrong Bosch part number and will make your car behave weirdly (trust me, I tried it). You can get the correct one from eBay for $250, but why not support this site?
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:45 PM
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It's in the air intake tract, it's a tubular device with a flat electrical connector attached.
I found pictures of the item online but I don't see where such a device could fit in my engine compartment. I am attaching a picture of my engine compartment. The intake (and the compressor) is on the driver's side of the engine.

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Old 09-22-2009, 03:21 PM
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Check your PM's. Go to the link, see post #3 and click on the pdf file for the instructions.
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:54 PM
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The mass air flow sensor is mounted in line behind the air filter box, it has a square electrical housing on the top . The harness connects at the top side of it. The removal requires a special clamp removal tool to release the clamps that hold it in place.
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:05 AM
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Thank you very much.

When I looked to buy the part, I saw that it was not the "tube like thing" that I saw when I did the Google image search. It is much flatter than that and I remembered seeing it from work I did previously.

Mercedes was nice enough to put the electrical connector right on top, so I've cleaned that now (without any other disassembly) but the Check Engine light is still on. If a dirty connector was the problem, how long before the light goes out?

The linked information indicates that the more common prolbem is oil in the harness going to the O2 sensor. I replaced my O2 sensor not too long ago, and I do remember there being some wetness in the connectors. Perhaps I should get back under there and spray some contact cleaner on that plug?
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:13 AM
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For that code it may need to be erased with a scanner.
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Old 09-23-2009, 10:35 PM
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Mercedes was nice enough to put the electrical connector right on top, so I've cleaned that now (without any other disassembly) but the Check Engine light is still on. If a dirty connector was the problem, how long before the light goes out?
Nobody has ever posted about "dirty connector."

This is a hot wire MAF and the cleaning is of that wire, which is internal to the unit. This unit measures density/volume of incoming air by calculating how much that air cools the hot wire.

All very interesting, of course, because this cleaning isn't going to work in any event.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:22 PM
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All of the measurements and for that matter the establishment of air density and flow over the element are based soley on very slight voltage variations seen by the control unit. ANY single or multiple instances that can effect the current flow will have the ability to alter the factors that establish the air mass
traveling through the assembly...... so a corroded connection caused by disimelar materials being in contact in a varying environment can alter the readings seen by the control unit.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:43 PM
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Nobody has ever posted about "dirty connector."

This is a hot wire MAF and the cleaning is of that wire, which is internal to the unit. This unit measures density/volume of incoming air by calculating how much that air cools the hot wire.

All very interesting, of course, because this cleaning isn't going to work in any event.
I am equally skeptical about the connector theory, and I don't recall ever hearing about that before. For the record, these AMMs are thin-film type, not hot wire (I believe). Some people have reported success with cleaning, but not very many. I tried, and it did.... nothing.
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:37 AM
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All very interesting, of course, because this cleaning isn't going to work in any event.
LOL. Probably not, but I don't see the harm in trying. Like I said originally, the car drives just fine. If I didn't have an impending state inspection I'd just keep driving it as-is. If cleaning the sensor works long enough to drive to the inspection station then I have all the time in the world to noodle it over or save up money for parts and tools.

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Old 09-23-2009, 02:31 PM
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AMM will be about $450 from the dealer or about $250 from this site. I bought mine from here, to support the site. You can get the correct one from eBay for $250, but why not support this site?
I searched this site and only found the part for $450. I'd like to support this site, I believe you guys are a big help. Can you link me to the $250 part?

In the meanwhile, I am going to try cleaning the AMM/MAF. Seems like a no-lose procedure. If it doesn't work, I'll be no worse off than I am today.

If I erase the code with a scanner, I presume I'll have to drive some number of miles still before I can go for my vehicle inspection?

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Old 10-09-2009, 01:03 PM
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I searched this site and only found the part for $450. I'd like to support this site, I believe you guys are a big help. Can you link me to the $250 part?
I still have not purchased a new MAF. There was a problem locating the special flexible hose clamp pliers (one source kept telling me they'd have it the next day, and the next, and the next).

So I still want to buy the part here to support you guys, but I'm not going to pay an extra $200 for it. I can buy it locally for $266. Show me where I can get it "here" for anything close to that.
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You can call Phil and see what he can do.
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