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ooooh, I was using this one it's much less legible and seems to list some unnecessary things to be removed... such as the radiator...
And which one of these is the upper chain rail... just want to make sure. I got this valve stem seal kit, they look the same style as in your pic gsxr (just not the color), i just hope they're the "good" ones. How hard are the head bolts to remove. They feel really tight and I dont want to strip them. Any advice on what to use to break them properly? And do you only work on one at a time, removing it completely before moving on or do you loosen all of them and then remove all of them? I'm gonna need some sort of magic to get those stripped bolts out. But, I'll find a way. I hope. And Ya, Thanks for the extra resources, especially that readable factory manual
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Stainless-steel and Aluminum do not play nice, I recommend against putting stainless fasteners into an aluminum head as they might never come out again.
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I was hoping that it would have enough nice parts that if I decided not to fix it, I could part it out and make some money. There weren't very many nice parts left. It's spent too much time in the sun and commuting on salted roads, 80 miles to SLC and back every day. Half of the car needs repainted, the headliner sags, the wood is cracked and the upholstery has issues. The chrome has worn thin on the grill surround, etc. etc. On the bright side, they claim a lot of things work, such as A/C and such. They've already replaced it with a very nice, almost mint 87 190D 2.5. I'd give them $500 for that! Nobody seems to think it's worth gambling $500 on.
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well, I'm getting real close to starting on the head bolts. finally got the intake manifold off. Guess I still have to order that rail pin puller tho, kinda expensive it seems like... and I don't know how to use it . And i just want to make sure, that pin puller is for the rail guide, not taking the chain apart right?
To get the chain loose I just loosen the 12 pt bolt and take out the upper rail guide and let the chain/sprocket sit right? Before I take that off I'm gonna try to check for stretch. I got the two marks on the sprocket and... other thing... lined up pretty well, just need to look at the crank pulley correct? I just can't really see it very well so I'm wondering if I have to remove the water pump or something else to get to it properly.
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The pin remove removes the pins holding the upper chain guide (pictures in gsxr's response). If you've removed the injectors, use the heat shields a socket and a long 6mm bolt. Set the socket open side towards the pin, put the bolt through the socket into the pin using enough washers so it doesn't bottom in the pin. Tighten the bolt. At some point the bolt will bottom. Remove the bolt and add washers. Lather rinse repeat until the pin comes free of the head.
To get the chain loose you remove the tensioner. Loosen by the big hex against the block/front cover, not by the smaller hex on the tensioner stem. I think the same 27mm deep socket for injectors works on the tensioner. Use a flashlight into the crank pulley from about the 11 o'clock position. Spray brake parts cleaner first so you see a distinct pointer and timing marks rather than a cruddy mess. Maybe look at the crank pulley from below as you turn the engine so you see the timing marks embossed on the rubber damper for a better feel of what you're looking for from above. Since alignment of the cam sprocket and cam tower marks is somewhat subjective, average a half dozen readings, give the engine two full turns between. Sixto 87 300D |
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The turbo oil drain O-rings are item # 350 in the diagram below. There are two of them, part number 012-997-56-48, list price $2.20 each.
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I would still want to measure chain stretch, especially on a 602 engine which is known to have a batch of bad chains from the factory. If it measures beyond spec, then you know it HAS to be replaced. If it's within spec, then it's just optional... on a budget, you could save the ~$150 plus tool rental and just leave it be. They're not like belts which can fail unexpectedly if not changed on schedule...
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These bad chains on 602s. Over all years? Just one year?
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Well I got the head off! It's at a machine shop right now, probably till about Wednesday since Monday's a holiday. But ya, I did it.
On the timing chain, I did it 6 times with 2 full rotations in between measurements. Lowest i got was 0, highest was just below 3. AVG of about 2. Soo sounds good right? Anyway, I'm just wondering if there's anything I need to know about reinstalling. I'll clean up the block probably with a paint scraper, definitely change the oil (duh?), and then just hope I can remember how it all goes back Questions: Do I need to lube anything with oil before it goes back on (gaskets or whatever), should I clean certain parts or stay away from cleaning certain parts, and how does one go about chasing the threads in the block? Oh, one last random thing. We ordered new head bolts and it says there are 22, but it only came with 21. So should we just use one of the old ones?? I assume so, but I just wanted to check.
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Ben, a bit late but I'm in Salt Lake City if you need help.
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