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Ideal Differential
I've decided to keep the engine and the transmission from my 1984 300D (94K miles on it) and use it for a "out ob the box" project. Diesel trike: hence I would like to know which domestice differential ratio will be ideal to match the automatic transmission with. I am looking for something that will take advantage of the torque for faster accelleration.
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I'm not quite sure what you're asking - I assume domestic differential means something from the US of A and that this is for the trike project...
...all I can say is that most OM617a's had the 3.07 rear end ratio on a tyre / wheel combination of 195/70 R14 The differential was changed to 2.88 in the last years of production of the W123 You kind of need to consider your ideal sized wheel / tyre combination to work out what how fast you want to drive towards sharp bends on three wheels!
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I agree... with the stock configuration a nearly 4000lb car have adequate acceleration...
in a 750lb trike... uh... IDK... scary. factoring in the turbo lag, that could REALLY be a scarry vehicle to drive...
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It's going to be hard to predict what's best...everything is a trade off. I'm running a 2.47 in my project car and am very happy. I'm trading a bit of off-the-line performance for quiet, economical cruise. Many would be unhappy with this setup but it's exactly what I want.
I'd just swap in what you've got and adjust as needed after you've got the beast on the road and have a chance to evaluate any changes.
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I'm a big fan of my 2:65 LSD, and if I ever had to replace the car, I would take the 2:65 LSD with me.
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I had a 2.47 in my 300SD and loved it. It never felt slow to me. Since trikes are so light I would imagine you could use a 2.47 and accelerate quite quickly.
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WMO:
Note that three wheeled vehicles that are reasonably stable, and that steer properly, have two wheels forward, and one aft. If the vehicle is constructed as rear wheel drive, there is, obviously, no need for a differential at all. As to drive ratio, that is an entirely different matter. |
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Pretty sure a 616 could flip a trike without too much work.
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Oh wow just like one of these but with an OM617 up front!
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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This is what I would like to duplicate with the 617/trans as the power plant.
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I realize that Morgan is in no way practical, but I still think it's pretty sick. If building something similar with a turbo 617 for power you'll want to use a fairly tall final drive ratio since it will have rather a lot of torque and weigh not much.
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That almost wood grained effect on it makes it look especially mad - in fact it looks like one mighty fine way to loose your front teeth! How about getting a 4matic gearbox and making it three wheel drive?
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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This thing will corner well and without the leaning may be hard to stay seated on.
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