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We sent boat drivers and boats today and will again tomorrow. The briefing we had was that there are some areas in which non-military, non-police relief will be prevented from entering. Our guys are sticking to metro and uptown. Apparently gangs have busted into gun shops and looted them. The NG is supposed to clean them out. The LANG has experience as combat teams in Iraq in GW I&II. Gangsters aren't going to enjoy the consequences of pulling down on them. Also, Harry Lee (sheriff) instructed his law enforcement to treat looters extremely harshly. Those guys don't play, either. Bot 
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08-31-2005, 08:46 PM
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I'm ambivalent on this in certain situations. I never thought that I would be. A food store is filled two feet of water. The food is clearly a total loss. Persons enter the store in an attempt to secure desperately needed food for themselves and their families. Do you shoot them, or arrest them??
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Actually I want to see how much our friends in Israel send us. After all, they are our friend, and ally, and we support THEM. Yeah Right. $100,000 if we're VERY VERY VERY lucky.
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08-31-2005, 08:50 PM
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But nobody needs a boombox or nikes so bad during a flood that they need to rob a store for them. Bot
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08-31-2005, 09:00 PM
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08-31-2005, 09:02 PM
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But I think anyone taking something that is not obviously a "survival item" (food, water, medical supplies, etc.) should be shot on site. These looters taking TVs and stereos and computers and guns at a time like this, when they should be helping their neighbors, are among the lowest form of opportunistic criminal vermin. Mike
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08-31-2005, 09:04 PM
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*Your* President allowed this to happen, or did you forget Koop's article ALREADY. PLEASE. Say goodnight.
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08-31-2005, 09:11 PM
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Temper, temper....Don't worry, nobody's trying to silence you here. I'm just telling you that there's far more important things going on, so NOBODY CARES about your ridiculous ranting blaming Bush for the hurricane. Mike
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The Fed, state and local gov had planned and drilled for the evacuation since the mid-1990's. It was voluntary throughout the presumed landfall area on Wedn. Recall that the area extened from Appalachicola FL to TX. On Thurs it was reduced to Central LA coast to Appalachicola. At that time the mayor of NOLA told NOLA that should make arrangements to evacuate.
On Friday the mayor indicted he would order mandatry evac on Saturday. Local, state and fed agencies began formal cooperation in planning for the staging of relief efforts. On Fri eveing teh gov ordered evac of lower Plaquimenes and St Bernard Parish. Those folks must get through NOLA to get to safety. NO alternate route. On Sat morning the mayor indicated he would order mandatory evac that afternoon unless the storm's predicted path changed dramatically. It didn't and he did. On Sunday morning the governor ordered mandatory evac in all parishes bordering the MS river and the Fl parishes. Shortly thereafter, Bush declared a state of emergency. These two official actions were required before certain actions could be put into motion for organizing the management for the storm. This includes logistics and financing. In gov, if there is no logistical planning and no financing, there is no activity. It is required BY LAW that the governor make teh request before the exec can act, else it is considered usurpation of state perogative--a no-no in a federal gov. On Sunday evening the president declared a state of disaster for certain designated parishes and counties along the Gulf. This put the response apparatus in motion. It was done BEFORE a disaster occured. This violated protocol, but at this point, I haven't seen a single complaint. At that order, FEMA activated plans and began moving personnel and materiale into preplanned positions. As soon as it was safe to fly, state police and other state agencies flew damage assessment missions. The fed authorized shifting of defense and intelligence gathering assets to FEMA for appropriate evaluation. From these initial, 'quick assessment' surveys, a skeletal plan was laid-out. At that time everybody scientists to gardener) thought the worst had passed. We were wrong and the consequences are horrible. Bot
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Nice try at the spin, but you're little league, and little league has little use in a thinking man's realm. Now isn't it tuck-in-time at the pillow ranch for you little tough-guy?
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