Yes I accept that. But you do maintain that the govt. has no right to extract funds from the public for it don't you, or have I misread you completely?

Yes I agree with your second point. Applies to funding CPB as well. Neither that nor Mars missions are OKed in the constitution. Fancy that.

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Of course the government has the right to extract funds from the public - it's called taxation. Most people don't like everything that it's spent on but that's why we have representation.

As far as PBS goes I don't feel that I have to contribute more to it or send money when I copy something of theirs onto a DVD. I've already paid.

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Yep...too much sun...it keeps me away from the TV and Radio and I don't waste time and money on the fish-wrap versions of how I'm suppose to drop my pants and bend over for every LeftWackLibboDemJob that thinks I need to be punished because I have a view that doesn't cause my jaw to drop and go, "GOLLLLLLY! DEM SUM REEL SMART FELLERS DARE!"

As for the Right blaming all the problems of the nation on the Left...I watched the "Left" blame all their ills on the "Right" during the 60's, 70's and 80's...Same chit, different day/decade.

Spoiled brats that never lifted a finger to support themselves, getting handouts and bailouts from either their parents or the Gubment...then *****ing about how hard it is to get a free dollar because the "Right" wants them to prove they either need it or go out and get a real job.

Try Jesse Jackson...where the hell does that fraud really work? Is he still "milking" MLK's assassination as his claim to fame? He's got his Rainbow Extorsion...er...Coalition to prop him up. If he's got callouses on his hands, it's probably from patting himself on the back and shaking all the hands of real people that work more than he could possibly dream.

We have too many experts and no doers of the work...Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians.

And our legal system is being raped, logically, by the minutia of the reason of words...common logic and sense have disappeared, only to be replaced by self-righteous, self-centered greed-induced logic and humanism.

And, as long as Darwinism continues to trump the Spiritial Reasoning and Morals that brought this Nation into being...we'll continue the downward spiral towards the end of this great country...

And you can blame it on greed - self-centeredness - "Me-First-And-To-Hell-With-Everyone-Else"isms - "It's not my job."

And all the finger-pointing won't make the problem go away or disappear...it will still be there...needing the action of someone who cares to get up off their lazy @55 and start the ball rolling...

And all I continue to see and hear on the TV, Radio and paper is..."It's someone else's fault...give me more tax dollars and we'll buy our way to salvation."

Doesn't work for the Devil and I'm sure it won't work for us either.

But, hey! Let's go ahead and install a Dem in the WH and let them spend (Remember, it is your money...) our future and lifestyle for all the votes they can garner.

You might have to change this Website forum to "YugoShop.com" in about four years...and by the 6th year..."HuffyShop.com" and at the end of 8..."ThumbShop.com."

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Well, if you say no more context is necessary then I'll go with my original summation. It doesn't surprise me that he said it he's done it before. I'm just not that interested in JFK anymore.

I don't know about his bonehead communication abilities. He was touted as a supreme orator back during 2004. Like I said, he tends to bore me into sleep. If he'd made it to the Presidency he'd probably be labeled a Weapon of Mass Depression.

I did do a little searching on the subject, here's what I found:

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From the way this thread has gone, I believe that many of you on the left would be perfectly happy if Rush, and all the right-side political commentators lost their freedom of speech. Should they be sent away to " re-education camps" like that great Socialist Empire, the USSR made famous? The USSR did not have political dissent like Iran does not have homosexuals. Is that a better world?
If you listened, you would know that he never said he is fair and balanced; he puts his political slant right out in front for all to see and know.

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This thread has gone from Rush Limbaugh to Mars.

I wish people would drop this argument as one in favor of Republicans. It is just silly.

Ran across this last night looking up stuff on Kerry's comments on soldiers. Pretty funny, of course, satire isn't everyone's cup of tea... But dude has a knack - esp. with the Petraeus piece on his blog.
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Rush Limbaugh's Anal Cysts Attack Our Idiot Troops

Let me preface this post by reminding everyone that Rush Limbaugh has anal cysts, and he is therefore prohibited by law from having any opinion on the war that contradicts my own. So while I'm a strong believer in a First Amendment right to Free Speech tempered with a Democrat-crafted Doctrine of Fairness, I was so outraged by Fatty Pillpopper's verbal assault on our babykilling troops that I canceled the weekly flag-burning rally at Camp Larry to voice my anger over his remarks.
Rush McFatso Limbaugh, for those of you who haven't already been told what to think of him, is a right-wing, hate-mongering hater who uses The People's Airwaves to spew his vile hate-speech into the primitive, insect brains of the dittohead masses. Anyone who listens to his hateful tirades risks becoming one of his mindless neo-con herd. Thank Goddess we have Democrat leaders like Harry Reid to listen to Limbaugh's show for us and whittle his entire 3-hour program down to two words.
For your own safety, I won't repeat those two words here. Suffice it to say that Limbaugh, who has anal cysts, launched an unspeakable attack on our beloved troops. You know who I'm talking about: the baby-killing, Quran-mishandling, hired guns for Halliburton who only joined the service because they were too poor or too stupid to get into an Ivy League college of John Kerry's choosing, or simply because they wanted to rape and murder innocent civilians for kicks.
I guess this dispels once and for all the right-wing myth that conservatives support the troops more than liberals do. Aside from the Butchers of Haditha, the Sadists of Abu Ghraib, the Lap Dancers of Gitmo, unscrupulous recruiters, military leaders who don't enjoy gay sex, the entire United States Marine Corps, anyone who has ever killed someone in combat, and any right-wing shill who speaks out in favor of the war - liberals have nothing but huggles and kissies for those who wear the uniform. Especially those who are immune to Bush's jingoist brainwashing.
So it's especially infuriating that Limbaugh should attack soldiers who openly criticize Bush's illegal and immoral war, as those are the only kinds of troops who deserve and have the respect of progressives everywhere. So much so that we won't humiliate them by checking their credentials before we wheel them out to denounce the U.S.'s imperialist acts of aggression.
AND THE NEOCON CHICKENHAWKS HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL US UNPATRIOTIC!!!!

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If the evidence seems weak, perhaps I may be of help. "Soldier" means one soldier. "Solidiers" means "more than one".

The "ditto heads" are legendary for their ability to rationalize away anything negative about their hero. You serve the cause well. Myself,I find the context of his remarks simple, and easy to follow. The man said what he said, it is in black and white. I think it was an attempt to test the waters as a preliminary to a general attack on these increasingly embarrassing soldiers.

An excellent indictment.

That's an intresting theory. I was thinking about it at a much lower level. My impression of this phony soldier thing is that Limbaugh was just talking fast and loose like he always does. He was working hard to discredit anyone who opposes Bush's policies in Iraq and if he could tie legitimate soldiers who oppose the war to the truly phony soldiers who lied about their experiences, then that's great for him. It's not something that someone with integrity would do, but this is Limbaugh, untethered by logic or truth. He seems to get on a roll sometimes and I am not sure even he knows where his tirades will lead.

It was the Republicans who started the method of preaching to the choir information game, but Democrats have caught up now. The end result is people not trusting anything but the source they're tuned into. It rather effectively ended open mindedness.

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Thanks for the compliments on defending the dude. I might have tried harder if I liked him.

I guess you didn't find #248 funny. That's ok, satire is often lost on those it's closest too.

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Encore! Encore!

Golly, that reminds me of somebody who once posted here and then got banned under several names. Now he's giving folks a good rogering at another forum. A jolly time had by all.

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Do tell. Who would that person be?

Anyway, encore regarding Petraeus.

Petraeus Betrayed Us, Alright

For the past two days, we've heard from an expert on the quagmire in Iraq with intimate knowledge of every military battle, every classified mission, every pair of boots on the field of battle, and with a clear and firm plan for what needs to be done to insure the safety of our troops and a satisfactory conclusion to the war.
Then after Barbara Boxer was through talking, they wheeled out this Petraeus jerk.
That Petraeus would betray us by deviating from the script graciously provided him by MoveOn.org was expected. But for him to blatantly contradict the conclusions of congressional Democrats who have watched this illegal and immoral war unfold on CNN and read about it every day in the New York Times is beyond the pale. Petraeus is obviously no Winter Soldier to be admired and revered by Hollywood celebrities whose opinions we rely on. A man in uniform who testifies before Congress as if he is actually proud to wear the uniform simply cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
The problem with putting these military types in charge of our military is twofold. Number one, they take orders from the Commander-in-Thief. Number two, they are too obsessed with achieving victory and protecting the lives of the men under them to consider other options - options that may be less than appealing to your typical military commander but politically beneficial to Democrat leaders nonetheless. And when you help Democrat leaders, you help us all.
The time has come for a change. It's time to stop letting neocon generals run the military, and give liberals a chance to call the shots. Put Babs Boxer in charge of our armed forces and I guarantee this illegal and immoral war will be over in five minutes, and all our war criminals will come home to proudly serve their country in a manner that the Founding Fathers intended: guarding abortion clinics in Berkeley.

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