Many could do with an understanding of plato's parable of the cave.
None of us see true reality.
Only our perceptions of it.

On a lighter note

Its nice to be wanted.

The real motivational force behind many of mans actions is to gain the acceptance of his peers.

...to keep playing hardball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq08ouOwiqQ

Do you understand the meaning of the song in that link ???

Where the streets have no names ?????

They are talking about setting aside our differences and loving one another.

And that 911 is a consiquence of the behaviors you abdicate.

They kill us, so we kill them, so they kill us, etc....

Who do you think got the ball rolling in the first place ??
Was it the united states, or or the middle east ???
Who were the origional killers in this little game of swords ???

Clearly this so called "terrorist" was an idiot and couldn't accomplish his mission.


To me this indicates were putting a lot of pressure on Al-Qaida and they are now totaly unable to launch any form of successful planned attack.

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Other than bringing a few packs of fireworks on the plane and creating a feast for the media, I do not see how this fellow could ever realistically detonated any serious explosive.

To do that, you need wires..........and wires don't go through a metal detector or a TV screen.

I'd really like to get the true and exact story of what he carried on that aircraft.

I'd have a better chance of winning the NY State Lottery.

Yeah, I'm quite hesitant to call him a terrorist. To me it seems more like a lone nut, or rogue Al-Qaida member.

Other that maybe trying to start a fire lose powder can't be a bomb, there is nothing to contain the explosian. Even lose gun powder when ignited just flash's harmlessly.

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The perp is also Muslim. And that seems to be the common denominator of terrorists. The Army court martialed some of soldiers from Abu Ghraib, so something illegal went on there. If you think the Muslim word has forgot about it you're very much mistaken.
I doubt this latest attempt at terrorism was made without some grounding reason, and Abu Ghraib could be it as easily as any other reason.

As I mentioned earlier, I don't follow any of the 'big four' faiths from the Middle East,

BUT,

Holy Quran: (008.012) “When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.”

My personal recommendation is EVERYONE read, The Trouble With Islam Today: A Muslim's Call for Reform in Her Faith. by Irshad Manji - somebody else who 'gets it.'

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Ah! Abu Graib! Abu Graib! Abu Graib! the clarion call that has likely recruited more followers to Moveon.org, ThinkProgress.org, and Barackobama.org than to Al Qaida.

You off your meds again?

Depends on the material. Many high explosives require no containment to produce supersonic outgassing. Supersonic outgassing causes damage even without shrapnel.

Perhaps, you have a thought on how the billions of pounds of high explosives that existed for many years prior to the age of "you need wires" where detonated? People who have actual knowledge and actual experience are keenly aware that many extremely "serious" high level explosives and detonator substances can be "realistically" initiated by means other than "needing wires". Such methods and substances can be extremely effective in very small quantities and in non-metallic containments, and the chemical compositional differences between substances that act in a given circumstance as an "incendiary" vs. "explosive" in nature can be virtually indistinguishable and unpredictable.

P. S. It's usually not the blue or is it the red wire that needs to be cut to save the day!

"rogue Al-Qaida member" as opposed to a what other type of Al Qaida member?

"Other that maybe trying to start a fire lose powder can't be a bomb, there is nothing to contain the explosian."

Based on your knowledge and experience"


"Even lose gun powder when ignited just flash's harmlessly"

Is the assertion that “gun power” was the substance employed in this attack?

Tim McVeigh, IRA, NAZIs, KKK, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, et al? Neither terrorism nor Islam are homogeneous. More people who are or were terrorists have been non Muslim.
"Mistreatment of detainees" were the charges. 'Torture' never came up in the trials. The majority of convictions (four total) were 'failure to intervene.'
I was right, smack dab, in the middle of the 'Muslim world' when it all happened. Here's what happened. We found the families of the men pictured, paid them, apologized, drank some tea, took them home and it was over. Most of the ones NOT pictured are still locked up in other places. The Muslim world knew Saddam did much worse than the US Army did. The National (paper of the UAE) even printed that it showed weakness when the US Army did not 'simply kill them [detainees.]'
What the New York Times never had the courage to print was, what bothered the Muslim world was it was NOT Arabs doing what white people were doing.

You can't group all Muslims in the same category. They are NOT a homogeneous group and blood feuds WITHIN ISLAM go on even today.

In case you never meet an Arab who trusts you enough to explain, "My brother and me against a cousin, my cousin and me against a stranger..." Here's the cultural order; 1. My family is more important than tribe. 2. My tribe is more important than sect. 3. My sect is more important than another sect. 4. Islam is more important than infidelity.

The detainees you saw on American TV were Shi'ite 'Mahdi Army' supporters of Muqtada Al-Sadr. The Sunni actually knew this beforehand and most of them didn't care. Some even approved. If you recall, the only boisterous protest came from Syria, Iran and parts of Lebanon. GCC countries didn't seem to say too much.

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Well, in Hatt's defense, this guy was clearly an idiot. Maybe he did have gunpowder.