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Old 04-07-2010, 11:35 PM
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He didn't step down by choice, he was "asked" by his boss...
But his boss believed the same as Rummy. So did Bush.

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Old 04-08-2010, 12:16 AM
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that obviously makes it ok. i believe they were lynching some of the, uh, "darker" citizens back then too, about 300 a year. ah, the good old days.
I'm not saying it's OK, just pointing out that americans still react the same way as the did in the 1790s when something scares them. The government is still more than happy to play on those fears. Nothing really changes.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:21 AM
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But his boss believed the same as Rummy. So did Bush.
These guys had the idea that all you have to do is take your .45,find the "bad guy", and shoot him. Each found out quickly ,it doesnt work like that when you are fighting an "Idea". This is why we have to exterminate all of them, the moment they are discovered. Or- we can wait around and let them exterminate us. Self preservation is an instinct that I posess ,that is why I say let the Military handle this...keep it out of the legal hall's of shame..
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But his boss believed the same as Rummy. So did Bush.
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Old 04-08-2010, 12:35 AM
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Self preservation is an instinct that I posess ,that is why I say let the Military handle this...keep it out of the legal hall's of shame..
Is that why you joined the largest religious group?
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Old 04-08-2010, 01:37 AM
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Is that why you joined the largest religious group?
I have my own personal reasons for determining which faith I profess. Note: I studied Islam for 3 yrs to get a thorough understanding before I decided to convert. Islam is the only religion that does not 'recruit" members.Another note: The Singaporean Government, as well as the F.B.I. moniter new converts very closely,in order to weed out anyone who may be interested in joining a terrorist organization. The real issue here,is what to do when a terrorist is discovered/caught. America is way behind in their approach to punishing said peoples. Take a look at world news,and see how many other countrys deal with these issues. I believe you will see that such individuals dont live too long.And they dont lay up in some prison @ the tax-payers expense.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:40 AM
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A government deliberately killing it's own citizens is definitely not something I would ever endorse. A very troubling development.
Its called capital punishment. Happens all the time.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:49 AM
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Its called capital punishment. Happens all the time.
Yup, after a trial and a sentencing hearing. We rarely hear of a g'ment termination order.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:46 AM
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Its called capital punishment. Happens all the time.
Not in the USA. Endless appeals, almost always, worthless, and thought up by inventive lawyers, see to that.


The population on death rows are huge and growing exponentially.
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When you're at war, the enemy gets a bullet. He's been determined as the enemy by our government. Good enough for me.

If he wants to surrender, then give him his trial.

I doubt he'll surrender.
What are we fighting to preserve?
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Old 04-09-2010, 06:50 AM
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What are we fighting to preserve?
Apparently, the rights of folks who don't understand due process to express their opinions. Fortunately, those opinions usually get exactly as much consideration as they deserve.
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Old 04-09-2010, 08:48 AM
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What are we fighting to preserve?
First off, our lives. We don't have that, we don't need to talk any of your high falutin values.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:39 PM
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Meaningless unless youre stupid enough to put yourself in a position where you will be judged. In this case, fry the bastard and everyone of his collaborators.

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I can think of hundreds of situations where you'd be an innocent bystander and get nabbed up in a criminal investigation.

I hope you never have to deal with an investigator whose only wish is to prosecute someone with any law that sticks. Be careful what you're asking for.

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I wouldn't worry about it, we don't have a clue what the real story is. People who make these types of comments are the intended audiance for the public story, just tell them what they want to hear and they'll eat it up. Like it or not, there is a domestic political angle to these issues; bread and circuses, as always.
I agree Craig. However it is still unsettling that they're doing this. I fear for the future of this country with acts like this.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:45 PM
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I agree Craig. However it is still unsettling that they're doing this. I fear for the future of this country with acts like this.
You do understand that if the other side has it's way, there will NOT be a future of the country to speak of.
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I can think of hundreds of situations where you'd be an innocent bystander and get nabbed up in a criminal investigation.
You might be able to dream them up. But they have no resonance here. There is nothing innocent about this piece of **** and it should be discarded like the **** it is.

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