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jplinville · #46 11-22-2011, 08:53 AM

I tried to be outraged...I even tried to be angered and upset. It just didn't happen from within.

Nope, still don't care.

Txjake · #47 11-22-2011, 09:00 AM

From a legal website regarding protesting in DC, but charges are charges..

Incommoding. This is blocking vehicle or pedestrian traffic on the streets, sidewalks, and other walkways. This is by far the most common charge we see when protestors sit down in the street. Sidewalks are trickier because you generally have a right to engage in free speech activities on the public sidewalks; but if you so clog them that no one else can use the sidewalks, you might be charged with incommoding.

Unlawful entry on property (trespassing). Remaining on private property after being told to leave is punishable

Exercising Your Rights Of Political Protest In Washington, DC

From CNN: "The school said 10 protesters arrested were given misdemeanor citations for unlawful assembly and failure to disperse. "

MTI · #48 11-22-2011, 09:25 AM

The campus police had "the right" to arrest or issue civil citations for trespass; they also had the right to physically arrest the persons, but given the range of methods and materials available to them, the use of chemical agents in a non-violent sit-in, especially when the stated goal of the campus police was to remove camping equipment, does seem over reaction.

In the end, the protestors achieved more publicity than they could ever imagine. It seems that some elements of "the establishment" and law enforcement learned nothing from the past.

aklim · #49 11-22-2011, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

I tried to be outraged...I even tried to be angered and upset. It just didn't happen from within.

Nope, still don't care.

I am outraged that they didn't call me to spray them. I'd have done it for free.

My "Give a Damn's busted" as the song goes.

aklim · #50 11-22-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MTI

In the end, the protestors achieved more publicity than they could ever imagine. It seems that some elements of "the establishment" and law enforcement learned nothing from the past.

While that has some truth, here is the other end of it. Given human nature, no action would be seen as weakness and the next attempt will be even more outrageous as will the next one. Perhaps if they had squashed this crap back when with the abortion protesters and their chains and lying down in the road, it might not be where it is today with vandalism, sabotage, harrassment and murder once in a while.

tjts1 · #51 11-22-2011, 09:42 AM

Well officer oink oink is out of a job this morning. Good riddance. I hope they get him on the criminal charges.

Jim B. · #52 11-22-2011, 09:45 AM

You know what?

The cops in that department are all laughing about this.

One of them told me years ago, in the cops' world there are only TWO kinds of people.

1. US.
2. Everybody else

In fact, I bet their POA is already selling T shirts to them with that picture on it.

It is an absolute classic, a gem.

I wonder what the caption says.

I will bet you that while they may not be allowed by the brass to sell them at the gift shop at the Academy, someone is selling a LOT of them already.

And guess who will be buying them up.

clue: After the Rodney King incident in LA back in 1991 or 1992, whenever it was, someone designed black t shirts, that proclaimed:

L A P D

We treat you like a King !

Guess who bought the most of them.

The cops of the depatment at the LAPD.

(Who did you think it would be? ACLU members? Do you understand what "Police humor" is like?)

I wished *I* had the time to print up a batch of T shirts this time.

The slogan practically writes itself above that cop with the pepper spray.

I could tell you what it is, but then I'd have to kill you.

Jim B. · #53 11-22-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tjts1

Well officer oink oink is out of a job this morning. Good riddance. I hope they get him on the criminal charges.

They won't.

The POA will fight to the death any prosecution.

They will beat the drums with fundraisers, HELL, they might even sell T shirts for his "defense fund".

You don't know anything at all about Police culture do you?

In their world,

It's THEM.

And everyone else.

Attack ONE of them, and you are attacking ALL of them.

Geddit, yet?

Honus · #54 11-22-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Txjake

From a legal website regarding protesting in DC, but charges are charges..

Incommoding. This is blocking vehicle or pedestrian traffic on the streets, sidewalks, and other walkways. This is by far the most common charge we see when protestors sit down in the street. Sidewalks are trickier because you generally have a right to engage in free speech activities on the public sidewalks; but if you so clog them that no one else can use the sidewalks, you might be charged with incommoding.

Unlawful entry on property (trespassing). Remaining on private property after being told to leave is punishable

Exercising Your Rights Of Political Protest In Washington, DC

From CNN: "The school said 10 protesters arrested were given misdemeanor citations for unlawful assembly and failure to disperse. "

I understand that the protesters were probably breaking a few laws. What I would like to know is why you believe that the police had the "legal right" to do what they did. I don't know the answer to that question, but the pepper spray approach used by the UC-Davis cop seems unorthodox to me.

elchivito · #55 11-22-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

I am outraged that they didn't call me to spray them. I'd have done it for free.

My "Give a Damn's busted" as the song goes.

You are truly the quintessential he-man. My hero. We are all basking in your testosterone fueled glow.

tjts1 · #56 11-22-2011, 11:16 AM

The cop should have executed the protesters one by one. After all they were breaking the law. Maybe that would make TxJake happy.

Solid Snake · #57 11-22-2011, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Honus

I understand that the protesters were probably breaking a few laws. What I would like to know is why you believe that the police had the "legal right" to do what they did. I don't know the answer to that question, but the pepper spray approach used by the UC-Davis cop seems unorthodox to me.

I think it's pretty simple. They didn't move after being asked, and instead of facing litigation for physically moving them, the officer opted to spray them with pepper spray. Go figure in our country he gets fired for not picking them up and moving them.

If a person doesn't want to have the potential to be sprayed, beaten, arrested, etc, then they should go through the proper channels to protest. Otherwise, this happens.

Think on the bright side, he could have gone to town on them with a riot shield and bludgeon. Or a beanbag shotgun. Given the options, I'd take pepper spray.

Honus · #58 11-22-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I think it's pretty simple. They didn't move after being asked, and instead of facing litigation for physically moving them, the officer opted to spray them with pepper spray. Go figure in our country he gets fired for not picking them up and moving them.

If a person doesn't want to have the potential to be sprayed, beaten, arrested, etc, then they should go through the proper channels to protest. Otherwise, this happens.

Think on the bright side, he could have gone to town on them with a riot shield and bludgeon. Or a beanbag shotgun. Given the options, I'd take pepper spray.

Just a wild guess here. You have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

Air&Road · #59 11-22-2011, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I think it's pretty simple. They didn't move after being asked, and instead of facing litigation for physically moving them, the officer opted to spray them with pepper spray. Go figure in our country he gets fired for not picking them up and moving them.

If a person doesn't want to have the potential to be sprayed, beaten, arrested, etc, then they should go through the proper channels to protest. Otherwise, this happens.

Think on the bright side, he could have gone to town on them with a riot shield and bludgeon. Or a beanbag shotgun. Given the options, I'd take pepper spray.

As you said! Very simple!

tjts1 · #60 11-22-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I think it's pretty simple. They didn't move after being asked, and instead of facing litigation for physically moving them, the officer opted to spray them with pepper spray. Go figure in our country he gets fired for not picking them up and moving them.

If a person doesn't want to have the potential to be sprayed, beaten, arrested, etc, then they should go through the proper channels to protest. Otherwise, this happens.

Think on the bright side, he could have gone to town on them with a riot shield and bludgeon. Or a beanbag shotgun. Given the options, I'd take pepper spray.

Why stop there? Just execute the protesters on the spot. Imagine how happy that would make you.