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Old 12-05-2011, 11:53 AM
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True however the amount mentioned was so minute that unless you were going thru checkpoints several times a day
What would be the effect on the people who work the checkpoints and have to be near the scanners 8 hours a day?

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Old 12-05-2011, 11:56 AM
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What would be the effect on the people who work the checkpoints and have to be near the scanners 8 hours a day?
I have no idea. But since when do you care? They are TSA people and you'd want them dead anyways.
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:58 AM
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I have no idea. But since when do you care? They are TSA people and you'd want them dead anyways.
Then again, I pay the costs of their health plan and any lawsuits by them.

PS - don't want them dead, just either unemployed or better trained. Take your pick.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:04 PM
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I do wish they had cameras to show whether it occurred or not however, how is this either right or left wing?
Since TSA is under the supervision of Obama, the meme is they are now "bad".

I'm just not buying this story. So far no one has come forward to corroborate.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:10 PM
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Then again, I pay the costs of their health plan and any lawsuits by them.

PS - don't want them dead, just either unemployed or better trained. Take your pick.
I'm sure.

OK. That sounds a little more reasonable than [QUOTE]Maybe the extra stress will lead to an early heart attack or suicide for some of the sons of *****es. Hopefully before they get to collect a gov't pension; saving tax dollars is important.[/QUOTE. Perhaps I missed that from all the venom spewing around.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:30 PM
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I thought we discussed this.

The media will create any story they can possibly find to insult the TSA as it provides good reading.

I'm absolutely sure that both of those stories are untrue in many aspects.

It does make good reading, however, and reinforces your opinion as the TSA being rude and inconsiderate.
If the old bag is sportin' a defib, she should know that the only outcome of going through airport screening will be to set off the scanning systen alarm.
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To avoid any hassle or delays, I always inform TSA and other screening setups (at sporting events, etc). of my own AICD. In airports, it's usually a walkaround and a patdown and shoe inspection right in the screening area.

I have no problem with prefilght flight screening. Dem's da rules. Don't like them? Charter your own plane, take the farkin train or drive.
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Old 12-05-2011, 12:43 PM
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I have no problem with prefilght flight screening. Dem's da rules. Don't like them? Charter your own plane, take the farkin train or drive.
Would you be OK with the same rules for trains or driving, or even charter aircraft? Oh, and let's see: the TSA has caught ... ZERO! ... terrorists since 9/11. All have been caught either by:
(a) accident - i.e. they were incompetent (thank G-d)
(b) good police work - read: infiltration of terrorist cells
(c) vigilant passengers

Something like 9/11 can't happen again because the passengers would rip the b@lls of anyone who tried out of their scrotum. The screenings and paper checks are security theatre at its worst. We need more smart, well-trained cops who can blend in to terrorist cells, better border security so that terrorists can't get into the country, and stiffer penalties for terrorists. If they consider themselves at war, that's fine. Penalty for sabotage during wartime is death by firing squad -- make sure to dip the bullets in pig grease before use.

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Old 12-05-2011, 12:46 PM
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I do not understand how people think abolishing the TSA will change anything. There has to be security at the airport or no one will fly.
I disagree. If they completely abolished security checks for commercial aviation and didn't check for guns/knives/bombs/whatever, I would be more willing to fly. Yes you might get a suicide bomber here and there, but from recent cases it looks like the enemy is running out of capable people willing to blow themselves up on a plane. As for hijacking attempts, those wouldn't go so well with a number of the passengers armed.
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I disagree. If they completely abolished security checks for commercial aviation and didn't check for guns/knives/bombs/whatever, I would be more willing to fly. Yes you might get a suicide bomber here and there, but from recent cases it looks like the enemy is running out of capable people willing to blow themselves up on a plane. As for hijacking attempts, those wouldn't go so well with a number of the passengers armed.
The last few attempts at stupidity didn't go so well even with the passengers NOT armed. 9/11 taught people the lesson that allowing a hijacking can mean death, not just internment at some G-d forsaken Middle Eastern or Cuban airfield.

This being said, I'm not for guns on planes. Lots of stressed people (fear of flying, claustrophobia, nervousness about making connections) with guns means that "accidents" will happen.
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Something like 9/11 can't happen again because the passengers would rip the b@lls of anyone who tried out of their scrotum.
I wouldn't bet on that
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Since TSA is under the supervision of Obama, the meme is they are now "bad".

I'm just not buying this story. So far no one has come forward to corroborate.
I don't agree with everything Obama says or does but blaming him for the TSA takes a very big stretch of the imagination since I don't think he formulates the rules or is directly sitting and watching them every day.
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I disagree. If they completely abolished security checks for commercial aviation and didn't check for guns/knives/bombs/whatever, I would be more willing to fly. Yes you might get a suicide bomber here and there, but from recent cases it looks like the enemy is running out of capable people willing to blow themselves up on a plane. As for hijacking attempts, those wouldn't go so well with a number of the passengers armed.
I wouldn't any more than I would want to board a bus
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I wouldn't any more than I would want to board a bus
Yet you're OK with going to a restaurant or theatre where an unknown number of people might be strapping? Should we start requiring searches for all public places?

BTW - I'm not opposed to TSA security within reason. When it gets unreasonable (i.e. strip searches of old women, confiscation of bags with images of guns, "your papers please") then I start to have a problem with it.
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I disagree. If they completely abolished security checks for commercial aviation and didn't check for guns/knives/bombs/whatever, I would be more willing to fly. Yes you might get a suicide bomber here and there, but from recent cases it looks like the enemy is running out of capable people willing to blow themselves up on a plane. As for hijacking attempts, those wouldn't go so well with a number of the passengers armed.
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Yet you're OK with going to a restaurant or theatre where an unknown number of people might be strapping.
Or I might be packing too. Thing is, it is easier to run out of a restaurant or theater when something goes wrong than an airplane at 30000 feet.

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