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Old 12-17-2012, 11:49 AM
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Not to dis your idea, but having been around rent a cops, I'm not sure I'd trust the lives of children to them. Most places that hire them, hire only ONE. A well placed head shot would eliminate them whereas the nut jobs would have a more difficult time in taking out a school full of armed teachers. As soon as the school alarm is sounded, all teachers except for the one that is in the room with Mr. Whacko escort the children out of the building. That teacher engages the nut and keeps him occupied knowing that the other teachers are on their way back into the building to partake in some enjoyable target shooting.

Place the whacko's shot up body in front of the school with a sign: "This is how we deal with sickos". Leave the body in front of the school for a full week so that the media can get plenty of news coverage.
You don't trust a rent a cop but you trust a 20 something teacher? Anyone else see a disconnect?
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:11 AM
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But we cannot find them all, so why bother?

We cannot infringe on peoples rights (I do not think the COTUS out laws being nuts) so we should not do that.

The arguments used for gun regulations.... why not use them here?
Never mind the people who think psychiatry is a fraud (*cough* Scientology), or that psychoactive medications are part of a healthcare conspiracy. Talk therapy ain't gonna do jack for your violent psychotics.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:17 AM
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Never mind the people who think psychiatry is a fraud (*cough* Scientology), or that psychoactive medications are part of a healthcare conspiracy. Talk therapy ain't gonna do jack for your violent psychotics.
Yep, some people are just wired differently. Don't know if this Lanza kid was, but if the anarchist soccer mom story is true and accurate, it sounds like that kid is wired different. I've only known one sociopath personally. He didn't have violent tendencies but he definitely was not motivated by moral concerns in any way shape or form.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:15 AM
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The lack of any terrorist attacks against an aircraft is your answer to the government introducing legislation against mass shootings?



Nice argument.
You mean the lack of successful terrorist attacks against aircraft. (I'm sure you don't think no one has tried to bring down an airliner in the last 10 years.).

What can I say, I'm a results oriented guy.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:17 AM
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I read the Asperger's thing too. Don't know if it is just speculation or not. Most asperger's people aren't violent to strangers are they? Why pick a school? Do video games portray school shootings?
The vast majority of asperger's individuals are extraordinarily peaceful. Most of the violent mentally ill folks are psychotic or sociopaths.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:54 AM
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I read the Asperger's thing too. Don't know if it is just speculation or not. Most asperger's people aren't violent to strangers are they? Why pick a school? Do video games portray school shootings?
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The vast majority of asperger's individuals are extraordinarily peaceful. Most of the violent mentally ill folks are psychotic or sociopaths.
I have an acquaintance from my HS days that I stay in touch with via Facebook...he was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome when he was 22. At that time, they claimed it was high functioning Autism, today, they don't know enough about it to say what it is or what causes it.

He was always quick to get pissed off when we were younger, getting red in the face and shaking when upset. He would then explode into a tirade, and as quick as he was to upset, he's calm down just as quickly. After seeing him get picked on by some of the upper-crust of society in the HS, I started watching out for him, keeping the others away from him, while being friends with him. I knew something was not wired right upstairs, but nobody knew what it was at the time

Today, he's married and has 3 wonderful daughters. He has had to start his own company out of his home, due to issues interacting with people on a face to face level. He is a computer networking and programming guru, and hired a few younger guys to go out and do the work that he designed, so that he doesn't have to interact with others. He told me it's far easier to deal with people via email and phone than it is in person.

Because of what Lanza did, he fears what any medical classification will do to him and what he's worked so hard to build.

He really is an amazing character, quick witted, and well spoken. He's constantly using "$3 words" when nickel words would work better. Only a few of us know about the issues he has, and we fear for him as well.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:09 AM
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I have an acquaintance from my HS days that I stay in touch with via Facebook...he was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome when he was 22. At that time, they claimed it was high functioning Autism, today, they don't know enough about it to say what it is or what causes it.

He was always quick to get pissed off when we were younger, getting red in the face and shaking when upset. He would then explode into a tirade, and as quick as he was to upset, he's calm down just as quickly. After seeing him get picked on by some of the upper-crust of society in the HS, I started watching out for him, keeping the others away from him, while being friends with him. I knew something was not wired right upstairs, but nobody knew what it was at the time

Today, he's married and has 3 wonderful daughters. He has had to start his own company out of his home, due to issues interacting with people on a face to face level. He is a computer networking and programming guru, and hired a few younger guys to go out and do the work that he designed, so that he doesn't have to interact with others. He told me it's far easier to deal with people via email and phone than it is in person.

Because of what Lanza did, he fears what any medical classification will do to him and what he's worked so hard to build.

He really is an amazing character, quick witted, and well spoken. He's constantly using "$3 words" when nickel words would work better. Only a few of us know about the issues he has, and we fear for him as well.
It sounds as if your friend has organized his life in a way that allows him to be productive without too much interaction with others. I would not worry about him too much.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:11 AM
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peace unto you all.I'm a democrat,I'm not against guns,we need a well armed militia in case the government goes corrupt.What I am against at least here in Tennessee is flea Markets selling weapons ( assualt rifles,sniper rifles) with no waiting period.yard sales also sell weapons.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:20 AM
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It's not my intention to lighten the gravity of the school shooting, but this crazy humans shooting humans bullfeces goes on everywhere, every day.
Sunday morning not far from my home

Gazette.Net: Man shot, killed in Silver Spring Sunday

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Old 12-17-2012, 07:25 AM
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peace unto you all.I'm a democrat,I'm not against guns,we need a well armed militia in case the government goes corrupt.What I am against at least here in Tennessee is flea Markets selling weapons ( assualt rifles,sniper rifles) with no waiting period.yard sales also sell weapons.
I agree the free for all we currently have is not necessary IMHO.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:11 AM
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peace unto you all.I'm a democrat,I'm not against guns,we need a well armed militia in case the government goes corrupt.What I am against at least here in Tennessee is flea Markets selling weapons ( assualt rifles,sniper rifles) with no waiting period.yard sales also sell weapons.

Gun control is unconstitutional to begin with. Waiting periods and registration is gun control, thus is unconstitutional. Prohibiting certain people, such as convicted felons and other identified individuals from having guns is fine.

If I understand correctly, there is a law that prevents guns from being within 1,000 feet of a school. How much good did that law do? It kept individuals from posessing a gun to defend their students with.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:16 AM
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In regards to the ppl that do these type things. They are probably bored out of their minds, then the parent put em in front of these violet video games (babysitter) all day and the only social skills they have come from Facebook if they have one and you get what we got. On top of this when they complain about how depressed they are because there is nothing to do start giving them those pills that have those psychotic warnings on them and here you go. Paxil comes to mind.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:36 AM
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Gun control is unconstitutional to begin with. Waiting periods and registration is gun control, thus is unconstitutional. Prohibiting certain people, such as convicted felons and other identified individuals from having guns is fine.
The second amendment to the Constitution does not address waiting periods, registration or "convicted felons and other identified individuals."
Logically, if you think waiting periods are "unconstitutional", then you'd also have to conclude that taking away the gun rights of a convicted felon is too.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:21 AM
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Yep, some people are just wired differently. Don't know if this Lanza kid was, but if the anarchist soccer mom story is true and accurate, it sounds like that kid is wired different. I've only known one sociopath personally. He didn't have violent tendencies but he definitely was not motivated by moral concerns in any way shape or form.
That kid has sociopath written all over him. He is going to hurt someone someday.

Not all sociopaths are violent - a lot of them are actually fairly successful and for whatever reason learn to channel their energy and aggression into socially acceptable avenues.
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Old 12-17-2012, 12:27 AM
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bombs, knives, firearms... its the few odd balls in the U.S. and as experienced in other countries...

"BARTLESVILLE, Okla. – A Bartlesville High School student is in custody on charges he plotted to bomb and shoot students at the campus auditorium on the same day that 28 people were shot and killed at an elementary school in Connecticut.

Police arrested 18-year-old Sammie Eaglebear Chavez at about 4:30 a.m. Friday after learning of the alleged plot Thursday.

An arrest affidavit says Chavez tried to convince other students to help him lure students into the auditorium, chain the doors shut and start shooting. The Tulsa World reports that authorities say Chavez threatened to kill students who didn't help.

The Bartlesville Examiner-Enterprise reports Chavez planned to detonate bombs at the doors as police arrived.

The school district says students were never in danger. Chavez is being held on $1 million bond."

Read more: Oklahoma teen arrested in school shooting plot | Fox News
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