Interesting take on the similarities between rampage killers and suicide bombers:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/opinion/what-drives-suicidal-mass-killers.html?_r=0

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Sure are alot of discharged GI's out there needing jobs. There are all sorts of things that they could be doing at schools in the way of maintenance or other things while at the same time providing a qualified armed person on the premises.

So many of these schools have no problem coming up with millions of dollars for football fields. Surely they can come up with a years salary for a qualified armed worker.

Just sayin'

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Gun regulation and controls don't accomplish anything they are written to do. The regulation explained by some of the LWNJ on this site are nothing more than grease for the slope we are already on. Gun free zones and the strict gun laws in effect did nothing they were PROMISED they would do. Especially in this tragedy. But here they are screaming for more. They lay in wait for the next tragedy and jump up with their false concern while pushing their agenda in the name of saving the children. Propped up by manipulated data and a solid self opinion that they know better than anyone else.

They refuse to realize that they dig at their own country's foundation. Or maybe they do. Anyone bent on controlling or modifying another persons rights is a thief.

If there were real concern for this tragedy their energy would be focused on helping the families through this time. Not immediately aiming this at controlling rights.

Yes, adding restrictions or loops to jump through is infringing. Most prisoners have the right to life. Just regulated versions of it.

On a side note, I wonder which fat guy is going to make a movie about this and make millions while getting pats on the back.

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I do not believe this boilerplate argument fits the discussion we have been having here. That argument is for a different set of people with different ideas.
And the slope business is so completely hackneyed as to be laughable

One could just as easily argue that the RWNJ gun freaks leap out within seconds of a tragedy screaming "GUN GRABBERS!!!!!!" Happens every time.
They trot out their numbers which show that our murder rates are declining, and have been for years, without mentioning that they are still heads and tails higher than any other civilized country.
Cutting and pasting the dictionary.com definition of 'infringe', all the while suggesting that other people must suffer restrictions on their freedoms because the 2nd shall never be restricted. (unlike restrictions on the 1st and 4th which a vast majority of citizens accept as reasonable and responsible.)

The foundation is eroding, it needs shoring up.
Again, how can you accept restrictions on some rights but not others? Because it directly impacts your toys?????
Anyone who kills others is a thief.


Get real. You shouldn't be posting or reading this, you should be out helping the families.

No it isn't. It is responsible government.
You do realize that amendments can be repealed?
Keep taking the hard line, and that may be on our horizon.

I don't know, but whoever it is, is likely a DB.

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Beyond that, when you look at the laws that have been implemented they have been so watered down and are targeting things that have no bearing on what is really happening. As far as I am concerned, we do not have any serious gun control laws in this country. I can go up to any person selling a gun, give him money and walk away with a gun. There is nothing in TX state law to prevent me from doing that.

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You could go to a gun show and bargain a better price against numerous sellers.

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This slope argument is so tiresome. There's NO evidence for it. When the assault weapons ban was put into place, the nutjobs were just sure it was the end of 2A rights. The slippery slope argument was the first thing out of their big mouths. If it's a slope, it must be REALLY GRADUAL. Gimme a break already.

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Lets see, make up a term (assault weapon), regulate it then wait till the next tragedy and call for a complete gun ban. Your right, a gradual slope.

U.S. Gun Laws: A History : NPR

Chicago has been doing this since the seventies and has some of the strictest laws on gun control. To no avail. But the regulation does not stop. Just keeps snow balling into more loop holes to jump through while the criminals play "shoot em up".

Why not call gun control into a vote when there isn't a tragedy nearby. Oh wait, never let a crisis go to waste.

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That is why I have no interesting in banning anything. I just wanted the weapons registered and have title transfer when they are sold. Fed could spot checks. Pull random serial numbers and verify that the gun is in the possession of the person named on the title. If it's not, the last name on the title will have some explaining to do.

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Few tools are more useless than a gun locked in a safe.

It's like having the police only minutes away.

Gee, thanks.

When you are with the gun it would not have to be in the safe.... when you are not with the gun it should be in the safe. That way if someone breaks into your house when you are not home they do not have access to the guns.

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- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

My home is your castle to decide how I should live in it.

You are more than welcome to leave your guns unsecure but when there involved in a crime where do my rights covenant play? All I am saying is that you will be held responsible for your guns. If your gun kills someone, you are responsible.

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- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Please, please tell me how this stupid idea could have possibly saved ANYONE in CT.

You keep coming up with ideas that have absolutely NO bearing on what happened, nor would they have stopped this tragic mass murder from happening.

You're grasping at straws...

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