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Old 12-17-2012, 06:54 AM
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I read the Asperger's thing too. Don't know if it is just speculation or not. Most asperger's people aren't violent to strangers are they? Why pick a school? Do video games portray school shootings?
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The vast majority of asperger's individuals are extraordinarily peaceful. Most of the violent mentally ill folks are psychotic or sociopaths.
I have an acquaintance from my HS days that I stay in touch with via Facebook...he was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome when he was 22. At that time, they claimed it was high functioning Autism, today, they don't know enough about it to say what it is or what causes it.

He was always quick to get pissed off when we were younger, getting red in the face and shaking when upset. He would then explode into a tirade, and as quick as he was to upset, he's calm down just as quickly. After seeing him get picked on by some of the upper-crust of society in the HS, I started watching out for him, keeping the others away from him, while being friends with him. I knew something was not wired right upstairs, but nobody knew what it was at the time

Today, he's married and has 3 wonderful daughters. He has had to start his own company out of his home, due to issues interacting with people on a face to face level. He is a computer networking and programming guru, and hired a few younger guys to go out and do the work that he designed, so that he doesn't have to interact with others. He told me it's far easier to deal with people via email and phone than it is in person.

Because of what Lanza did, he fears what any medical classification will do to him and what he's worked so hard to build.

He really is an amazing character, quick witted, and well spoken. He's constantly using "$3 words" when nickel words would work better. Only a few of us know about the issues he has, and we fear for him as well.

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Old 12-17-2012, 07:09 AM
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I have an acquaintance from my HS days that I stay in touch with via Facebook...he was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome when he was 22. At that time, they claimed it was high functioning Autism, today, they don't know enough about it to say what it is or what causes it.

He was always quick to get pissed off when we were younger, getting red in the face and shaking when upset. He would then explode into a tirade, and as quick as he was to upset, he's calm down just as quickly. After seeing him get picked on by some of the upper-crust of society in the HS, I started watching out for him, keeping the others away from him, while being friends with him. I knew something was not wired right upstairs, but nobody knew what it was at the time

Today, he's married and has 3 wonderful daughters. He has had to start his own company out of his home, due to issues interacting with people on a face to face level. He is a computer networking and programming guru, and hired a few younger guys to go out and do the work that he designed, so that he doesn't have to interact with others. He told me it's far easier to deal with people via email and phone than it is in person.

Because of what Lanza did, he fears what any medical classification will do to him and what he's worked so hard to build.

He really is an amazing character, quick witted, and well spoken. He's constantly using "$3 words" when nickel words would work better. Only a few of us know about the issues he has, and we fear for him as well.
It sounds as if your friend has organized his life in a way that allows him to be productive without too much interaction with others. I would not worry about him too much.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:11 AM
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peace unto you all.I'm a democrat,I'm not against guns,we need a well armed militia in case the government goes corrupt.What I am against at least here in Tennessee is flea Markets selling weapons ( assualt rifles,sniper rifles) with no waiting period.yard sales also sell weapons.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:14 AM
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Ohio had closed the Dayton facility a few years prior to Reagan due to lack in funding...apparently they decided to play the game of averages with public safety. Many of those released were released without a home, just set off in the street. Some of them are still on the streets of Dayton, or in prison for repeated offenses.
In my daughters Pediatric practice she has created a niche in which she does a lot of work with Autistic kids. She has worked out some unconventional methods of treating them which seem to work at a point in time when the conventional wisdom is there is nothing to do for them medically.

She also sees a lot of kids classified as having Asbergers syndrome which she seems to see as being related to autism. I confess i don't really understand it all that well.

She says that the parents of the kids with Asbergers must be able to tell the kids no and have a level of discipline or they will veer off and be non productive citizens if allowed to simply do whatever they wish.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:20 AM
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It's not my intention to lighten the gravity of the school shooting, but this crazy humans shooting humans bullfeces goes on everywhere, every day.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:25 AM
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peace unto you all.I'm a democrat,I'm not against guns,we need a well armed militia in case the government goes corrupt.What I am against at least here in Tennessee is flea Markets selling weapons ( assualt rifles,sniper rifles) with no waiting period.yard sales also sell weapons.
I agree the free for all we currently have is not necessary IMHO.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:41 AM
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Ah..but in the countrys listed there are not numerous accounts of mentally ill/violent people coming inhinged-perpetrating these tragedies on society on a regular-consistant basis.

Seems to be an American problem for sure.

Aside from the scenerio in CT, the U.S. also has another problem yet to be faced.
Returning service men and women are committing more violent crimes now than any time in history, aside from the mental health problems of these people being at an all time high.

Just another pot simmering..waiting to boil over.

To not recognise that the U.S. has a high number of mentally ill people in the population, that is prone to serious violence, while feeling superior to the country's listed is nothing more than hiding behind your finger.

Take another look.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:55 AM
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The shooting was bad enough, but what I heard yesterday morning, makes for even MORE concern.

I saw an interview with a Lt Colonel who has spent much of his career teaching Psychology at West Point. I got the idea that part of his curriculum had to do with things like desensitization in combat and the stresses of combat and things such as that.

He was VERY passionate and what he had to say made me pray that he is wrong, but he seems like someone who knows what he's talking about. He said that due to the desensitization toward killing that is becoming more prevalant by video games and other forces in society, that what we saw at Sandy Hook and the other shootings in recent years is just the beginning and that this sort of thing will be accelerating dramatically.

We all need to hope that this guy is WRONG, but I'm afraid he might be right.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:00 AM
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He said that due to the desensitization toward killing that is becoming more prevalant by video games and other forces in society, that what we saw at Sandy Hook and the other shootings in recent years is just the beginning and that this sort of thing will be accelerating dramatically.
No surprise here. Have you ever watched one of those video games. Kids will spend all day walking the streets gunning ppl down with whatever weapons they can buy/steal. Too bad there is not some farm work needed that they could be outside doing. Picking cotton or cropping tobacco comes to mind, both of which I have done my share of.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:01 AM
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I Am Adam Lanza's Mother interesting take/read
Very interesting, and scary, read indeed (I was going to post the same thing, saw that el chivito had a different link to it, too).

It goes well beyond inadequate or lacking corporal punishment. It's a hardwiring issue. And it sure seems more prevalent today.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:11 AM
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peace unto you all.I'm a democrat,I'm not against guns,we need a well armed militia in case the government goes corrupt.What I am against at least here in Tennessee is flea Markets selling weapons ( assualt rifles,sniper rifles) with no waiting period.yard sales also sell weapons.

Gun control is unconstitutional to begin with. Waiting periods and registration is gun control, thus is unconstitutional. Prohibiting certain people, such as convicted felons and other identified individuals from having guns is fine.

If I understand correctly, there is a law that prevents guns from being within 1,000 feet of a school. How much good did that law do? It kept individuals from posessing a gun to defend their students with.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:14 AM
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No surprise here. Have you ever watched one of those video games. Kids will spend all day walking the streets gunning ppl down with whatever weapons they can buy/steal. Too bad there is not some farm work needed that they could be outside doing. Picking cotton or cropping tobacco comes to mind, both of which I have done my share of.

No I haven't seen those videos, but it's easy to imagine what they could be like.

The invention of the combine and cotton pickers seemed like really great inventions at the time. Now, they seem to be having a negative impact on society.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:16 AM
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In regards to the ppl that do these type things. They are probably bored out of their minds, then the parent put em in front of these violet video games (babysitter) all day and the only social skills they have come from Facebook if they have one and you get what we got. On top of this when they complain about how depressed they are because there is nothing to do start giving them those pills that have those psychotic warnings on them and here you go. Paxil comes to mind.
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Yeah, I hadn't thought of the combination of the games and the pills. We most definitely live in a SICK society.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:36 AM
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Gun control is unconstitutional to begin with. Waiting periods and registration is gun control, thus is unconstitutional. Prohibiting certain people, such as convicted felons and other identified individuals from having guns is fine.
The second amendment to the Constitution does not address waiting periods, registration or "convicted felons and other identified individuals."
Logically, if you think waiting periods are "unconstitutional", then you'd also have to conclude that taking away the gun rights of a convicted felon is too.

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