Recored setting moralizing goofball Huckabee is going on about how this is what happens when you take God out of schools.

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Sadly, you are absolutely correct. Any other response is the typical reaction without substance.

Once again, people don't think. If you believe in God how can you think for a second that people could possibly take God out of school?

"Dear Lord, please don't let those whiny liberals tell you what to do".

When I posted the first few paragraphs I wondered if it would give that impression to someone who didn't take time to read the whole post. Read the link. This is more than just a mouthy kid. A good 40s style lickin' is not what this boy needs.

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The POS who killed all the kids in the Amish school wasn't slowed down by the issue of religion in schools.

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It was an ASSAULT semi-automatic riffle which the govertment ban had expired over 10 years ago, not a single shot riffle.

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"Thanks for bringing up the knife incident in China. It is a perfect comparison to the slaughter in the Connecticut. NONE of the children in China died. Last time I checked, alive is better than dead. Yes mental illness is an issue, but the proliferation of guns in the US is equally responsible for the deaths of these innocents kids. Knives can kill too but its much, much tougher to kill with a knife than it is with a gun - especially a semi-automatic. Gun control AND better treatment of mental illness both need to be priority in the U.S. Tony - please open your eyes to the issue of the excess of guns in this country. Someday a tragedy like this may affect your family. Maybe then you will feel differently about gun control."

God can direct a hurricane on New Orleans to punish gay people but can't jam an automatic weapon?

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What criteria do you use to classify a weapon as an ASSAULT WEAPON?? Black and scary? Looks like it could be used by the military?? Perhaps a weapon was purchased for use as a DEFENSE WEAPON, or as a SPORTING WEAPON.

The local gun club that I am a member of has teams of members that compete with weapons you would classify as an ASSAULT WEAPON. The truth of the matter is that it's never been used in an assaulting manner, only as a competition firearm.

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Is there a principle hiding behind this point?

BS!! A knife is much more easily concealed than a gun, and much smaller as well. With little training, anyone can become a mass murderer with any thing; rocks, chemicals, explosives, knives, vehicles, guns...they are all deadly.

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Do We Have the Courage to Stop This?
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: December 15, 2012

IN the harrowing aftermath of the school shooting in Connecticut, one thought wells in my mind: Why can’t we regulate guns as seriously as we do cars?

The fundamental reason kids are dying in massacres like this one is not that we have lunatics or criminals — all countries have them — but that we suffer from a political failure to regulate guns.

Children ages 5 to 14 in America are 13 times as likely to be murdered with guns as children in other industrialized countries, according to David Hemenway, a public health specialist at Harvard who has written an excellent book on gun violence.

So let’s treat firearms rationally as the center of a public health crisis that claims one life every 20 minutes. The United States realistically isn’t going to ban guns, but we can take steps to reduce the carnage.

American schoolchildren are protected by building codes that govern stairways and windows. School buses must meet safety standards, and the bus drivers have to pass tests. Cafeteria food is regulated for safety. The only things we seem lax about are the things most likely to kill.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration has five pages of regulations about ladders, while federal authorities shrug at serious curbs on firearms. Ladders kill around 300 Americans a year, and guns 30,000.

We even regulate toy guns, by requiring orange tips — but lawmakers don’t have the gumption to stand up to National Rifle Association extremists and regulate real guns as carefully as we do toys. What do we make of the contrast between heroic teachers who stand up to a gunman and craven, feckless politicians who won’t stand up to the N.R.A.?

As one of my Facebook followers wrote after I posted about the shooting, “It is more difficult to adopt a pet than it is to buy a gun.”

Look, I grew up on an Oregon farm where guns were a part of life; and my dad gave me a .22 rifle for my 12th birthday. I understand: shooting is fun! But so is driving, and we accept that we must wear seat belts, use headlights at night, and fill out forms to buy a car. Why can’t we be equally adult about regulating guns?

And don’t say that it won’t make a difference because crazies will always be able to get a gun. We’re not going to eliminate gun deaths, any more than we have eliminated auto accidents. But if we could reduce gun deaths by one-third, that would be 10,000 lives saved annually.

Likewise, don’t bother with the argument that if more people carried guns, they would deter shooters or interrupt them. Mass shooters typically kill themselves or are promptly caught, so it’s hard to see what deterrence would be added by having more people pack heat. There have been few if any cases in the United States in which an ordinary citizen with a gun stopped a mass shooting.

The tragedy isn’t one school shooting, it’s the unceasing toll across our country. More Americans die in gun homicides and suicides in six months than have died in the last 25 years in every terrorist attack and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

So what can we do? A starting point would be to limit gun purchases to one a month, to curb gun traffickers. Likewise, we should restrict the sale of high-capacity magazines so that a shooter can’t kill as many people without reloading.

We should impose a universal background check for gun buyers, even with private sales. Let’s make serial numbers more difficult to erase, and back California in its effort to require that new handguns imprint a microstamp on each shell so that it can be traced back to a particular gun.

“We’ve endured too many of these tragedies in the past few years,” President Obama noted in a tearful statement on television. He’s right, but the solution isn’t just to mourn the victims — it’s to change our policies. Let’s see leadership on this issue, not just moving speeches.

Other countries offer a road map. In Australia in 1996, a mass killing of 35 people galvanized the nation’s conservative prime minister to ban certain rapid-fire long guns. The “national firearms agreement,” as it was known, led to the buyback of 650,000 guns and to tighter rules for licensing and safe storage of those remaining in public hands.

The law did not end gun ownership in Australia. It reduced the number of firearms in private hands by one-fifth, and they were the kinds most likely to be used in mass shootings.

In the 18 years before the law, Australia suffered 13 mass shootings — but not one in the 14 years after the law took full effect. The murder rate with firearms has dropped by more than 40 percent, according to data compiled by the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, and the suicide rate with firearms has dropped by more than half.

Or we can look north to Canada. It now requires a 28-day waiting period to buy a handgun, and it imposes a clever safeguard: gun buyers should have the support of two people vouching for them.

For that matter, we can look for inspiration at our own history on auto safety. As with guns, some auto deaths are caused by people who break laws or behave irresponsibly. But we don’t shrug and say, “Cars don’t kill people, drunks do.”

Instead, we have required seat belts, air bags, child seats and crash safety standards. We have introduced limited licenses for young drivers and tried to curb the use of mobile phones while driving. All this has reduced America’s traffic fatality rate per mile driven by nearly 90 percent since the 1950s.

Some of you are alive today because of those auto safety regulations. And if we don’t treat guns in the same serious way, some of you and some of your children will die because of our failure.

Using seatbelts, headlights and buying auto-insurance isn't Federal level regulations, they are state level...as they should be. The same should happen for gun control laws. If a certain state says no, then that leaves the citizen an open door to find another state to live in.

I've actually looked at state gun laws when making a decision on job offers. If the state was too stringent for my liking, that offer was put on the back burner.

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Dr. Behind Port Arthur Gun Control Now In Maryland

Rebecca Peters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq2IiYldiQY

I've got a good friend that is a judge and he said he keeps a concealed weapon whenever he is on the bench. If he does not feel secure in his job why should a teacher?

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