Oh really?
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Apparently, you confuse me with your mother. She'll be all kind and nice and warm to you at all times, even when you're wrong.

I call you on your BS and you don't like it. I understand that, but don't confuse my attack on your fallacies with being obnoxious.

So, you'd be happy if the CT gun laws were tougher. Now, exactly how tough to they need to be before an individual such as Lanza is prevented from getting his hands on an illegal gun or a rifle or a shotgun? I'm assuming you will not attempt to ban rifles and shotguns, correct? If you can satisfactorily answer this one point, I'll have a bit more respect for you...........

I never suggested doing "nothing". Again, another failure to read on your part. I stand by the position that attempting to tighten existing gun laws will have absolutely no effect on the random violence perpetrated against an assembled group of sitting ducks.

They didn't suggest a "police state". They suggested that four or five teachers could be trained to use a firearm and said firearms could be at a readily available locked point in the school. This would take the folks in the school out of the "sitting duck" category. If publicized, it would also cause the DB a bit of pause before he tried to attack such a facility.

depending on state and county, but plenty of places you cant.

The whole gun vs cars argument is weak anyway. One is a transportation device that can be dangerous when misapplied or used improperly, the other is a tool for killing things, which can only be dangerous.

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It's ridiculous because you've already assumed all other things would be equal. They wouldn't.

Yet, more people die in car accidents.

Actually I don't agree with that. The guns should be on their person at all times.

I think that is likely correct.

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This doesn't fit the narrative at all.

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Some more common sense

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He brought-up the car. I responded in-kind. You don't like the argument? Fine with me. I doubt that one must register a car that is on private property only. I look at all of the derelict cars in the woods and try to imagine LEO's enforcing that bit of registration madness.

I agree completely that the gun is a single-purpose tool -- to kill. But the gun does not purpose itself.

That presents a much greater problem for the individual teacher on a daily basis. A problem that most won't want to accept. If you could get four or five to accept the burden of carrying the weapon every single day, I'd say fine.

Putting them in locked storage boxes where only a select few have the key would be a better solution, although admittedly not quite as expeditious when and if needed.

I have been beaten up by angry teachers, man am I happy they didn't carry a gun. Like teachers don't have mental breakdowns.

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look, I understand you are mad as hell, and like to spew your vitriol on the internet and so on. Thats fine. However, I think you could learn some manners in discussion, you remind me of a bratty kid with your pissyness, and if you want, id be happy to spank you, feed you, or burp you, just let me know. Maybe you just need a kiss?

I haven't said any BS, im not sure where you read that in my original post, but apparently you can't actually discuss without spitting up, which is a shame.

Correct, I believe that arming teachers, police and military style schools setups, armored desks, high capacity weapons for certain teachers, ect, are all steps towards a police state, and steps from actually educating these kids.

I would be happy with no handguns, and no automatic or semiautomatic rifles available. Shotguns I don't have much problem with, and yes, he could certainly kill plenty of people with a shotgun, but I doubt the sheer number he murdered in this circumstance, which would be an improvement of some kind at least?

Yes, you pointed out that you think that tightening gun laws would have no effect on the possibility of these types of massacres, and if you read my post originally, you would find that I agreed with that and said that I would expect any effect of gun legislation to be multiple generations from now.
The point is, something needs to be done of some kind, and those are my opinions. You don't agree, fine, but act like an adult and respond accordingly for once.

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Yep , critiquing is un american.
that you frame it as hatred, reveals your true intention..as well as indicates that you will turn a blind eye..bury your head in the sand when this problem manifests itself.

in doing so, a would be advocate for these people will be lost when federal moneys are not advocated to adress their mental health needs.

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Violent video games played by young kids screws up their heads...it's like giving kids real guns and telling them to go shoot at real people, especially with how graphic today's games are. It takes away the shock and awe of reality.

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Same with cops, right?

NY state requires all vehicles on property to have plates. I doubt its the only one.

Its a small argument, but it does serve to show that the rules are different everywhere. I found that particular NY rule to be a problem personally. Im sure you could hide one on a big enough piece of property, but it wasnt unusal for cops to go around looking down driveways for unregistered cars

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