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JB3 · #46 04-22-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

I need a clearer definition as to the extent of this "lockdown". While I understand that taxi service and public transportation were impacted, what was to keep me from hopping into my car and driving around Boston at my leisure?

basically they shut down public transit, and asked people to stay in their homes and close businesses for the day. I was impacted by the transit shutdown in providence as all commuter trains between the cities were cancelled to after the lockdown.

However, I think there is some hysteria in this thread as to how stringent a lockdown actually was, because is was basically a advisory, as if there were enough police and military in all of new england to keep an area as crowded as the Boston metropolitan area devoid of people driving around.

I know numerous people who were out and about, highways were in use with interstate travel. One lady I know left after the lockdown for a hair appointment, found the stylist closed, and returned to her home. ect ect.

we all need to relax and take a breath.

P.C. · #47 04-22-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JB3

basically they shut down public transit, and asked people to stay in their homes and close businesses for the day. I was impacted by the transit shutdown in providence as all commuter trains between the cities were cancelled to after the lockdown.

However, I think there is some hysteria in this thread as to how stringent a lockdown actually was, because is was basically a advisory, as if there were enough police and military in all of new england to keep an area as crowded as the Boston metropolitan area devoid of people driving around.

I know numerous people who were out and about, highways were in use with interstate travel. One lady I know left after the lockdown for a hair appointment, found the stylist closed, and returned to her home. ect ect.

we all need to relax and take a breath.

^^^This is how I saw it as well.

elchivito · #48 04-22-2013, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

basically they shut down public transit, and asked people to stay in their homes and close businesses for the day. I was impacted by the transit shutdown in providence as all commuter trains between the cities were cancelled to after the lockdown.

However, I think there is some hysteria in this thread as to how stringent a lockdown actually was, because is was basically a advisory, as if there were enough police and military in all of new england to keep an area as crowded as the Boston metropolitan area devoid of people driving around.

I know numerous people who were out and about, highways were in use with interstate travel. One lady I know left after the lockdown for a hair appointment, found the stylist closed, and returned to her home. ect ect.

we all need to relax and take a breath.

Yeah. Describing it as a "military style" or martial law lockdown is pretty much hair-on-fire talk. They weren't shooting or arresting people for coming out of their homes. Advising residents to shelter-in-place is hardly martial law.

P.C. · #49 04-22-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

Yeah. Describing it as a "military style" or martial law lockdown is pretty much hair-on-fire talk. They weren't shooting or arresting people for coming out of their homes. Advising residents to shelter-in-place is hardly martial law.

The evening before, they had a murder, a car chase, a police shootout, and multiple detonations of explosive devices. Perhaps this was a little much for Boston, although it describes a typical summer weekend night in Queens...

dynalow · #50 04-22-2013, 12:09 PM

Was Boston Actually on Lockdown?

........When it came to keeping the public off the streets on Friday, an order, it seems, wasn’t needed. “When the governor suggested in light of last night’s events that we have an armed subject on the loose who is very dangerous, who has committed murder, I believe the citizens of the commonwealth, in the hopes of helping law enforcement, voluntarily stayed off the streets,” Massachusetts State Trooper Todd Nolan told TIME. “This is a request that the public stay inside and they are adhering to it. There has been no law mentioned or any idea that if you went outside you’d be arrested.”

Legal experts agree that the request has been effective. “If there’s a person running around with explosives in a major population center, it wouldn’t be that surprising that the response of authorities would be to ask people to not be outside,” says David Barron, a professor of public law at Harvard Law School. The heightened risk to the public, given the violence that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is already alleged to have inflicted, made officials feel the shelter in place request was necessary, but such measures might not be the standard response to every future terrorism manhunt. “If the idea is somehow that the model for how to respond–when there’s any kind of suspect on the loose related to terrorism, they’ll be telling a place to be completely shut down–that seems not at all likely,” Barron says.

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Botnst · #51 04-22-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by barry12345

You cannot have your pie and eat it too. They have to be sure they aquire what intelligence they can. Drugs would be used rather than torture I suspect.

If they did not do so and something else happened this serious or worse as a proven result.. There would be hell to pay. For all practical purposes they were soldiers of a movement to attack America with a declared agenda. Not common criminals.

He cannot be allowed to hide behind legal systems and rights.This is probably nothing new and has been a standing arrangement for some time makes sense.

Technically if his citizenship is revoked he has no rights. What right did he have to participate in killing and damaging almost two hundred people? With implications it is part of a general movement in nature. Unfortunatly more information may have been gathered from his older brother but that option is gone.

If legal council is given before there is assurance the information is complete. It could set unhealthy precidents for the future. For all practical purposes they still were soldiers for a radical movement to attack America.No matter how inept they were.

As long as that information if any extracted is not part of a trial I see no issues in gathering it. They got a break catching one of them alive. To throw that away would be negligent in my opinion.

This is more of a war type situation than what the general population are used to. The differance if any is that the general population are the target. Economicaly these events are very expensive as well. If repedative they reduce a feeling of security for many. The financial cost of even attempting to deal with them is also through the roof since 9/11.

I hope you recognize that much of the information upon which you base your conclusions is from a single source which has a vested interest in your acceptance of teh story.

Not saying the source for the narrative is false. It is probably true. But do recognize that the government tends to stick to its narrative beyond reason -- ignoring subsequent evidence in order to maintain the agreed-upon narrative.

Air&Road · #52 04-22-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

The evening before, they had a murder, a car chase, a police shootout, and multiple detonations of explosive devices. Perhaps this was a little much for Boston, although it describes a typical summer weekend night in Queens...

Simpler=Better · #53 04-22-2013, 02:44 PM

I'm pretty sure when you have the police statement as an excuse to take a sick/vacation day and stay home most people are going to take that.

barry12345 · #54 04-22-2013, 05:23 PM

We arrested a couple in Canada today. One resided in Toronto and one in Montreal. They were not canadian citizens was also reported.

They had aparently been under observation for quite some time. Their agenda was to bomb the main passenger train that served the country. Thats if you believe the media reporting.

They did give credit for cross border intelligence services involvement. Makes one wonder just how many are out there.

layback40 · #55 04-22-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

You are an intellectual giant.

Thanks for the compliment reinvented PaulC !!

spdrun · #56 04-22-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by P.C.

The evening before, they had a murder, a car chase, a police shootout, and multiple detonations of explosive devices. Perhaps this was a little much for Boston, although it describes a typical summer weekend night in Queens...

Hey, hey, now. You mean the South Bronx, don'cha?

Queens is mostly a bunch of immigrant shopkeepers (and I say this in the fondest possible way, since my family started out in Queens after coming to the US)

P.C. · #57 04-22-2013, 08:43 PM

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Hey, hey, now. You mean the South Bronx, don'cha?

Queens is mostly a bunch of immigrant shopkeepers (and I say this in the fondest possible way, since my family started out in Queens after coming to the US)

South Bronx it is!

P.C. · #58 04-22-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by layback40

Thanks for the compliment reinvented PaulC !!

No, I actually meant it! I think that you are one of the most deservedly underestimated deep thinkers on this forum.

engatwork · #59 04-22-2013, 09:06 PM

Wonder why they did not ask the ppl in Boston with concealed carry permits and AR15's to come out and help round up the perps instead of essentially sheltering in place. The least they could have done is ask the ppl with firearms in their homes to keep them close by.

Air&Road · #60 04-22-2013, 09:07 PM

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