Disgusting conduct by security - Page 6 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Jim B. · #76 07-10-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

When I was at Cleveland Hopkins, I believe the air crews had an "express" lane that bypassed the passengers so they were given priority to go through the checkpoint.

JB3 · #77 07-10-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

^^^ Thank you citizen. The government appreciates your acquiescence.

Im sure they do, the point is that as big a PITA TSA is, its predicably manageable for joe citizen, and it HAS worked to keep various dangerous explosives and weapons off planes. Do I like the fact that I have to go through all this crap to get on a plane because of terrorism and other security concerns? no.

Do I deal with it knowing that the security screening DOES keep various nutjobs or forgetful people from carrying things on the plane they shouldn't? yes.

8 from the TSA top ten 2011 finds. Last two were animals and a science project

8) An artfully concealed non-metallic martial arts weapon called a “Tactical Spike” was found in the sock of a passenger at Pensacola (PNS) after being screened by a body scanner. The only thing I keep in my sock is my foot.

7) Inert landmines were found at Salt Lake City (SLC). I always travel with mine, don’t you???

6) A stun gun disguised as a smart phone was found at Los Angeles (LAX). Not very smart to travel with this stunning device.

5) A flare gun with seven flares was found in a passenger’s carry-on bag at Norfolk (ORF). Hmmm… pressurized cabin + 7 live flares = no good can come from this.

4) Two throwing knives concealed in hollowed out bookwere found at Washington National (DCA). Killer book…

3) Over 1,200 firearms were discovered at TSA checkpoints across the nation in 2011. Many guns are found loaded with rounds in the chamber. Most passengers simply state they forgot they had a gun in their bag.

2) A loaded .380 pistol was found strapped to passenger’s ankle with the body scanner at Detroit (DTW). You guessed it, he forgot it was there…

1) Small chunks of C4 explosives were found in passenger’s checked luggage in Yuma (YUM). Believe it or not, he was brining it home to show his family.

Jim B. · #78 07-10-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

all this talk about getting felt up is interesting, sounds like a big scare tactic since to my knowledge its pretty rare unless you keep setting off the scanner. Ive been on 4 commercial flights in the last 10 months, one international, and not once was I "felt up".

TSA is pretty predictable, and returning to the OP, the reason this guy got into a big thing with TSA is he refused to remove his metal laden uniform jacket, which any idiot can tell you will have to happen unless you are crew on an accelerated screening process.

My process is simple, I get into the security line that may take 10-20 minutes (never has it been hours in the major airports Ive been in), while waiting in line I untie my shoes, I remove my license from my wallet and place my wallet, phone, keys, and belt in my carry on, keeping my ticket and license in my pocket.
I arrive at the baggage screening conveyer, I place bag on conveyer, I place shoes and jacket in bucket and place on conveyer, and I walk through. Pick everything up on the other side. Done and done.

I don't carry big toothpaste, big contact stuff, food or water through security screening. 5 minutes of prep in having the right stuff to get through an airport before you get there is all it takes.

Only one time since 9/11 has my bag been opened by TSA, and that was when I had 3 knives in my carryon I had forgotten about. A bread knife, and two jack knives. Even then I wasn't "felt up" by TSA.

This hulabaloo is just so much silly hype. Guy should have known better than to expect that he could just walk through security screening without removing his uniform jacket, no doubt he's been on plenty of commercial flights in the past and knows the drill.

Like I did last weekend; these have been described as ground-bound Lear jets.

JB3 · #79 07-10-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

Like I did last weekend; these have been described as ground-bound Lear jets.

The next time I can drive over an ocean in my 240 or 3500 miles in 6 hours or less, Ill make the change. We need to get that bridge over the Bering straight up.

HuskyMan · #80 07-10-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

I think you rather deftly missed the point.

Botnst, which side of the street do you dance on? I keep seeing posts from you which seems to indicate you try and take both sides of an issue........

Jim B. · #81 07-10-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

^^^ Thank you citizen. The government appreciates your acquiescence.

Moderation in our other endeavors is a good thing also.

HuskyMan · #82 07-10-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

all this talk about getting felt up is interesting, sounds like a big scare tactic since to my knowledge its pretty rare unless you keep setting off the scanner. Ive been on 4 commercial flights in the last 10 months, one international, and not once was I "felt up".

TSA is pretty predictable, and returning to the OP, the reason this guy got into a big thing with TSA is he refused to remove his metal laden uniform jacket, which any idiot can tell you will have to happen unless you are crew on an accelerated screening process.

My process is simple, I get into the security line that may take 10-20 minutes (never has it been hours in the major airports Ive been in), while waiting in line I untie my shoes, I remove my license from my wallet and place my wallet, phone, keys, and belt in my carry on, keeping my ticket and license in my pocket.
I arrive at the baggage screening conveyer, I place bag on conveyer, I place shoes and jacket in bucket and place on conveyer, and I walk through. Pick everything up on the other side. Done and done.

I don't carry big toothpaste, big contact stuff, food or water through security screening. 5 minutes of prep in having the right stuff to get through an airport before you get there is all it takes.

Only one time since 9/11 has my bag been opened by TSA, and that was when I had 3 knives in my carryon I had forgotten about. A bread knife, and two jack knives. Even then I wasn't "felt up" by TSA.

This hulabaloo is just so much silly hype. Guy should have known better than to expect that he could just walk through security screening without removing his uniform jacket, no doubt he's been on plenty of commercial flights in the past and knows the drill.

Translation: Because I am Mr. "Go Along to Get Along" never questioning orders and I perform circus acts for them on command like a trained monkey, I expect the Marine to do the same.

Next time someone with a badge tells me to jump off a bridge....well.....I'll just go ahead and jump.

Jim B. · #83 07-10-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

Botnst, which side of the street do you dance on? I keep seeing posts from you which seems to indicate you try and take both sides of an issue........

He is NOT some ideological eunuch straddling both sides of the fence.

Jim B. · #84 07-10-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

Translation: Because I am Mr. "Go Along to Get Along" never questioning their orders and I perform circus acts for them on command like a trained monkey, I expect the Marine to do the same.

Next time someone with a badge tells me to jump off a bridge....well.....I'll just go ahead and jump.

Peachparts members will pay for the flowers out of petty cash.

JB3 · #85 07-10-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

Translation: Because I am Mr. "Go Along to Get Along" never questioning orders and I perform circus acts for them on command like a trained monkey, I expect the Marine to do the same.

Next time someone with a badge tells me to jump off a bridge....well.....I'll just go ahead and jump.

There are hundreds of things you do daily as part of society that I don't hear you complaining about, and most of these requirements are about public safety.
Let me guess, like a trained monkey performing a circus act on command, Im willing to bet you typically drive on the right side of the street, and generally follow speed rules. How dare you never questions these rules and just go along to get along?

The Marine being a Marine has little to do with it. Like I said earlier, you think an organization tasked with screening aircraft passengers should be impressed on a case by case basis by what someone is wearing, and as I also linked, a marine uniform is readily available to anyone. A screening program like that might as well be a piece of swiss cheese. If we are going to have it, lets make it consistent.

HuskyMan · #86 07-10-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JB3

There are hundreds of things you do daily as part of society that I don't hear you complaining about, and most of these requirements are about public safety.
Let me guess, like a trained monkey performing a circus act on command, Im willing to bet you typically drive on the right side of the street, and generally follow speed rules. How dare you never questions these rules and just go along to get along?

The Marine being a Marine has little to do with it. Like I said earlier, you think an organization tasked with screening aircraft passengers should be impressed on a case by case basis by what someone is wearing, and as I also linked, a marine uniform is readily available to anyone. A screening program like that might as well be a piece of swiss cheese. If we are going to have it, lets make it consistent.

Your inability to see the security check through the eyes of the Marine speaks volumes. There are always at least two sides to every story and sometimes more. Let us hear from him one more time since you don't appear to be championing his cause.

Quote from the OP link: “At some places I’m treated like royalty and at some like a terrorist. There’s got to be something in the middle,” he said.

JamesDean · #87 07-10-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskyMan

Your inability to see the security check through the eyes of the Marine speaks volumes. There are always at least two sides to every story and sometimes more. Let us hear from him one more time since you don't appear to be championing his cause.

Quote from the OP link: “At some places I’m treated like royalty and at some like a terrorist. There’s got to be something in the middle,” he said.

JB3's cause is that all should be screened regardless of service, what is the marines?

Going through a TSA checkpoint = being treated like a terrorist?

davidmash · #88 07-10-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

When I was at Cleveland Hopkins, I believe the air crews had an "express" lane that bypassed the passengers so they were given priority to go through the checkpoint.

If there is a premium/first class security line they will typically use that line as long as they are in uniform. If there is no such line, they will usually go to the front and a TSA agent will let them bypass the cue.

HuskyMan · #89 07-10-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesDean

JB3's cause is that all should be screened regardless of service, what is the marines?

Going through a TSA checkpoint = being treated like a terrorist?

Clarification asked for concerning your statement. What, exactly did you mean by "what is the marines?"