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Old 08-03-2013, 01:39 AM
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I agree with that. But, Z went beyond that common sense and totally disregarded the "Watch" instructions and what the 911 Operator said. To Me that made Him Negligent. 2. law guilty of negligence: guilty of failing to provide a proper or reasonable level of care.
I say that because He was not doing His job as a Neighbor Hood Watch correctly.

But, perhaps what He did was more Civil Court issue than a Criminal one.
GZ had gotten out of his vehicle to follow TM. The 911 operator had not yet realized that GZ had gotten out of the truck and was following TM. When the 911 operator realized GZ was following TM, the 911 operator told him to stop following TM. Once the 911 operator told him to stop following TM, GZ turned around and headed back to his truck. While going back to his truck (complying with the 911 operator's instructions), TM ambushed him. GZ was, in fact, moving away from TM to return to his truck and was not moving towards him when the attack occurred.

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Old 08-03-2013, 03:00 AM
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GZ had gotten out of his vehicle to follow TM. The 911 operator had not yet realized that GZ had gotten out of the truck and was following TM. When the 911 operator realized GZ was following TM, the 911 operator told him to stop following TM. Once the 911 operator told him to stop following TM, GZ turned around and headed back to his truck. While going back to his truck (complying with the 911 operator's instructions), TM ambushed him. GZ was, in fact, moving away from TM to return to his truck and was not moving towards him when the attack occurred.


Forget it, Donny, you're out of your element!

btw... the Zim did not call 911 as you suggest, he called a police non-emergency line.
Whether or not he was in his vehicle has never been confirmed either way.

Please do a little research before you spout nonsense.
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:28 PM
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Forget it, Donny, you're out of your element!

btw... the Zim did not call 911 as you suggest, he called a police non-emergency line.
Whether or not he was in his vehicle has never been confirmed either way.

Please do a little research before you spout nonsense.
It appears that you may suffer from factual delusions. May I recommend a good head doctor?


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Operator describes George Zimmerman's 911 call on Trayvon Martin - latimes.com

from the LA times article:


"Noffke, a 911 operator at the Seminole County Sheriff’s office, said Zimmerman had spotted Martin walking in the dark and reported him as looking “like he’s up to no good.”"
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:40 PM
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It appears that you may suffer from factual delusions.


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Operator describes George Zimmerman's 911 call on Trayvon Martin - latimes.com

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"Noffke, a 911 operator at the Seminole County Sheriff’s office, said Zimmerman had spotted Martin walking in the dark and reported him as looking “like he’s up to no good.”"
Seriously dude, quit digging, your hole is deep enough.
Please do some basic research about the case.
The call made by the Zim was not to 911
The girl on the phone with TM was not his girlfriend.



So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know...
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:46 PM
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The call made by the Zim was not to 911
Then why did a 911 operator handle the call?

Waiting for an answer........
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:57 PM
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Then why did a 911 operator handle the call?

Waiting for an answer........
Really dude??? You're off the hook. I understand not being up to speed and all, but deliberate ignorance??


This aggression will not stand, man.....

So here's a snippet from a source you will probably trust.....
However these stories did not received nearly the amount of attention prior to the trial as other speculation. Major media outlets repeatedly aired allegations that Zimmerman had used a racial slur in his non-emergency call to police. Last March, CNN's Anderson Cooper show enhanced the audio and claimed Zimmerman seemed to be saying a derogatory racial slur under his breath. A couple weeks later CNN retracted that claim. By the time of the trial, both defense attorneys and those for the prosecution agreed Zimmerman had said "f--king punks."
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/07/15/AG-Holder-on-Zimmerman-Case-I-share-your-concern
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:24 PM
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REALLY?! You two children have to argue over whether the cal was to 911 or the non emergency police number?
Does that matter in any way regarding the outcome?
Grow up.
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:31 PM
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REALLY?! You two children have to argue over whether the cal was to 911 or the non emergency police number?
Does that matter in any way regarding the outcome?
Grow up.
Sorry MS, I have a hard time accepting Johnny-Come-Lately spewing forth his own 'facts' which are patently untrue.

As a person who expresses (with some regularity) his disgust with the lies and half-truths reported in the media, I figured you would understand.


Besides.... it's like shooting fish in a barrel, and gave me good cause to post a bunch of Big Lebowski quotes... that's always a good time.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:07 PM
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GZ had gotten out of his vehicle to follow TM. The 911 operator had not yet realized that GZ had gotten out of the truck and was following TM. When the 911 operator realized GZ was following TM, the 911 operator told him to stop following TM. Once the 911 operator told him to stop following TM, GZ turned around and headed back to his truck. While going back to his truck (complying with the 911 operator's instructions), TM ambushed him. GZ was, in fact, moving away from TM to return to his truck and was not moving towards him when the attack occurred.
Is that what really happened (does evidence support that) or is that what You think/guess Happened.

I am trying to think why a Man would go to the Store be walking Home with the stuff He bought at the Store and then for no reason turn on someone and attack them.
T knew He was being followed and said that on the Cell Phone; that is evidence. Guessing: If He did attack Z it seems likely it was because Z was acting suspicious by following T.
That still means Z's actions were the cause of the Incident.

What ever Z was driving it was noticed by T that He was being followed. Then the Z gets out of the Vehicle and still appears to be following T.
If the above happened to Me I would also be worried the Guy was getting out of the Car to do something to Me.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:10 PM
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Forget it, Donny, you're out of your element!

btw... the Zim did not call 911 as you suggest, he called a police non-emergency line.
Whether or not he was in his vehicle has never been confirmed either way.

Please do a little research before you spout nonsense.
Sorry, I just parroted what I had read on the other Threads. I have Dial Up Internet and when I click on those sites people post they take too long to open up when I am on this site.
The main thing is either what was said was recorded or someone on the other end of the Telephone at the Police Station could give evidence.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:29 PM
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It appears that you may suffer from factual delusions. May I recommend a good head doctor?

If the delusions are factual, are they delusional?

May I recommend a good grammarian?
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Old 08-04-2013, 05:03 AM
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Me too. She was impressive. Very cool and calm for one so young.
The pro-Zimmerman crowd lambasted her. Called her 'embarrassingly ghetto' and the like.
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Old 08-04-2013, 05:07 AM
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Whup-Ass is OFFENSIVE while ASS Whippin' is DEFENSIVE. When someone says, "I am going to WHUP your ASS" they are on the offense. Getting your Ass Whipped means being on the receiving end of Whup Ass.

According to the girlfriend's testimony, TM was doing some Whup ASS to GZ. Combine what she said ON THE RECORD, BTW with GZ's statement that TM told him, "You are going to DIE tonight" and the event becomes crystal clear.

Take off the information filters and listen carefully.......


Rush Limbaugh Takes On Rachel Jeantel: She Basically Admitted Trayvon Was 'Ass-Whooping Zimmerman' - YouTube
None of that has much bearing on what GZ did to set the fight in motion. It's not really known. Gun rights advocates are big on the notion of using a gun to dissuade an attacker. If one is using one's fist to dissuade an attacker, it doesn't happen in the blink of an eye. One generally needs to whoop the other to insure that they back off.

I don't buy the "You are going to DIE tonight" allegation. GZ had a lot of time to concoct a story and the extent of the witness testimony against him was well known in advance of the trial.
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Old 08-04-2013, 05:10 AM
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Unlike your non-response to me, I'll go ahead and give you an answer. I know the girl needs to take beginning English classes because she doesn't know how to string two words together in a sentence.
Unfortunately not uncommon in her approximate cohort. Not the same as lying however.
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Old 08-04-2013, 10:02 AM
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The pro-Zimmerman crowd lambasted her. Called her 'embarrassingly ghetto' and the like.


As did the "pro T" crowd.

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