You would be OK with a one percent chance of your car burning up every time you drive?

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I think the chances of getting into a car accident are actually higher than 1% and I drive everyday. The world is a dangerous place.


And by your logic you need to be much more worried about other criminals offending you. If I used your logic there is a 79% chance Ill get carjacked outside my office by a recidivating car thief. I just rolled the dice and ordered take out for lunch. Me and a 190E are about to brave the voyage to Cocos Chinese. You might say I live on the edge, I'm carazy!

The results of some offenses are so devastating that I would not be comfortable with a one percent chance. I'm comfortable with a one percent chance that I'll catch a cold if I sit in the same room as you, but I cannot afford to have my kid sexually assaulted.

By my logic, and to toss a small amount of math into it, I'm not comfortable with the expectable value of the outcome.

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So maybe you parents with the perspective can convince congress that it is probably better to either summarily execute these perps after conviction and say 2 attempts at an appeal or just lock them up, throw away the key and weld the door shut. Also, I happen to think that with my perspective of being married with a wife, I want rapists to be also executed or forever incarcerated. While we are at it, I also have a few offenses to put on my list since we are taking about getting rid of them one way or the other.

Not saying what he did was wonderful but the man did his time, if we start inventing reasons to toss him in unless he reoffends, we are going to be on a very slippery slope. We do have a decent (relatively) legal system. If we start adding some twists and turns of this nature, we are going to have huge problems. Sure, we were fine with the Rhodney King thing where they skirted the law and appeased the crowd by charging them with different offenses. That is, until someone decides to hound people legally by skirting the "double jeopardy" rules.

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All I can say is that whatever VT is doing, it's working damn well. Both their rates of violent crime and their rates of incarcerated population are damn low by US standards.

I don't think that is likely but what about a Lawyer. Wait a minute; a lot of Politicians are also Lawyers.

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I thought castration only removed Testicles. After a Person is healed the rest still works.

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People will have to unite and get behind a life sentence.

But, since You brought of the Family issue aren't Children often (if not most often) molested by some Family Member?

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Or summary execution.

I guess not only does charity begin at home?

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yes.

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The trouble with Vermont's study is that a good many molestations of children go unreported ever so the true number for offenders is much higher than reported and by that logic the recending rate is higher than reported as well.

We had a man in our church who was a serial molester. He died and was never charged or convicted.

We had another man in our church who was caught convicted and did time, then returned to attend our church afterward. I never trusted him. Its a tough call. As Christians we are taught to forgive but statistics show that people who are attracted to children sexually continue to be so inclined even after a conviction....hence the registry so people can know if there is a sex offender in the neighborhood.

Sex laws can be abused by authorities too though. I know a young man well who was over 18 and given the responsibility of coaching a girls softball team. He had sexual contact with an underage girl (not sure what exactly transpired). He was sort of an immature kid whose family we were good friends with. He used to babysit our kids when younger. I remember having a conversation with his dad about his trial, etc. His dad decided to not spend the required 10K to give him a proper defense, I think they took a plea. I thought his dad made a big mistake there. Now the kid is a registered sex offender for the rest of his life.



I know another young man well who was a volunteer assistant cross country coach who had some sexual contact with an underage girl (did not have sex I understand) and also did time.

Both of the guys were sort of immature and or not real attractive physically.

But the child molesters I have no use for.

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I dunno who molests whom more often and I really don't give damn. I don't favor group punishment. I prefer individuals punished for individual crimes, regardless of family or position.

You say there's a problem with VT's study and then challenge it with anecdotal experience? Isn't that what studies are supposed to account for?

Problems with monitoring People wearing Ankle Bracelets.

"I think the perception ... is that these people are being watched 24 hours a day by someone in a command center. That's just not happening," said Rob Bains, director of court services for Florida's Ninth Judicial Circuit Court, which this spring halted its monitoring programs after two people on the devices were accused in separate shootings.

At least 100,000 sex offenders, parolees and people free on bail or probation wear ankle bracelets that can sound an alarm if they leave home without permission, fail to show up for work or linger near a playground or school."

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I am not for group punishment either.
And, our Criminal laws are not retroactive. So changing the Law would not effect those already released from Prison.

However, if enough People want stricter sentences they can work to have the Law changed.

Here in CA We have an Initiative Process where if they get enough Signatures from Registered Voters you can get your Initiative
on the Ballot.

CA got the 3-Strikes Law Initiative Process and later deflated the 3-Srike Law some using the same process.

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