Hello, I decided to buy a truck on ebay to replace the one I flew to vegas to get, and was rear ended in utah bannanifying the frame totaling it...

01 Dakota, 4 door, automatic, 95k miles, 4wd, "not one mechanical flaw"
I buy it, have it inspected (few minor oil leaks show up, but whatever nothing major) and pay for the remaining balance and shipping...

Truck shows up... So, it was a plow truck... Holes in the roof, fenders, and lots of extra wires and stuff under the hood for the plow... Small amount of play in the ball joints (but it's a dodge so...) the brakes stick and violently jerk the truck when the rears decide to kick in... And the front driveshaft is broken... And the "minor leaks" turn into it's dripping 1 drip an hour out of the back of the transmission between the tcase and transmission.

I tell the seller I understand it's a 14 year old truck, but a broken driveshaft is unacceptable when advertised as "not one mechanical flaw" and I can overlook the other flaws, but, I'm not paying one penny for the driveshaft, and that the leak is horrible and we should do something about it.

He says it's not his problem "my" inspection missed those issues. I called the shop asking WTF, and they hang up on me. "4wd opperating properly" box is checked on the "inspection" form. I send that and a local mechanics quote to my cc company, chargeback the $89.99 I Paid for apparently nothing. Seller tells me in colorful language that I wont get one penny back from him.

Ebay says because it's more than 9years old theres absolutely nothing they can do. I counter with "what if the seller said the truck was a blue ford and it shows up as a white dodge" They say it's between me and the seller.

WTF am I supposed to do? Driveshaft is $680 to replace, seal is $18, fluid is $80, and labor is $600... Nevermind the other used vehicle crap.

Am I wrong for wanting a partial refund to cover the driveshaft and part of the leak? Should I excuse the seller because "he's not a mechanic" and he didnt "think" there was a mechanical flaw of any sort?

Ugh, just wondering.
Thanks
~Nate

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2012 Escape, 'hunter" (5 sp 4cyl)

You had the opportunity to inspect it before buying it, right? I think you're stuck with it.

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Fair enough, yeah, it came from Tx, was from Co, and I'm in WI. Really should have spent the $500 on a plane ticket to check it out... Still pisses me off that the seller listed it as not one mechanical flaw and I took that with a grain of salt, but should have been a huge red flag of "this idiot has no idea whats going on"

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95 Honda Shadow ACE 1100.
1999 Plymouth Neon Expresso. 2.4 swap, 10.5 to 1 comp, big cams. Autocross time attack vehicle!
2012 Escape, 'hunter" (5 sp 4cyl)

I've got one for you; noticing that your car's hood has (3) dimples protruding from the underside of the hood after the indy shop worked on it. You don't notice it for a couple months, because the car wasn't washed and polished in that timeframe in the middle of winter. No one but the indy shop had opened the hood before the damage was discovered that wasn't there before. The hood was apparently shut while tools, etc. were under there. I think the guy in this case is SOL too.

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What is meant by a "broken" driveshaft, please?

Seems to me the people who did the inspection for you would be liable for repairs.....collecting such a debt though is probably the problem.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

The front driveshaft uses a C/V type setup where it connects to the transfer case, the CV balls or races in the joint no longer are present. When the 4wd is engauged, the driveshaft violently bangs around in the cup. End of driveshaft is chewed up too bad to rebuild. Pisses me off.

How is the shop liable? They didnt list the vehicle for sale. The missed the damage and grossly understated the leak on the inspection (because I'm some chump 1800 miles away) I did a chargeback and discovercard had my back and refunded it/refused further charge attempts...

I'm pissed at the guy, because when I say something in an ad, I mean it, and if there's problems I try to take care of it somehow. I wonder if I can do a chargeback through paypal or anything?
~Nate

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95 Honda Shadow ACE 1100.
1999 Plymouth Neon Expresso. 2.4 swap, 10.5 to 1 comp, big cams. Autocross time attack vehicle!
2012 Escape, 'hunter" (5 sp 4cyl)

People just file an item not as described claim with ebay and walk away,
dosent matter for what trivial detail, ebay does nothing to buyers,,, and its the major downside to attempting to sell a car there because scammers know it,
And they USE it, they will bid whatever to ruin someones auction and then show up with their typical craigslist slimeball attitude....
" yea sure--.THIS is the way its gonna go" they think they are entitled to use the INAD claim to haggle whatever price they think they can get away with out of the seller-and sellers cant do ANYTHING about it except tell the bozo to get lost ( except the cell phone recording in their pocket,
it is not admissible in any court--but a seller can definately play it to the ebay agents to prove the buyer is a scamming lowlife with his ridiculous nitpicking routine.

I called ebay motors and they said I cant file a claim because it's more than 9 years old. I guess I havnt tried contacting paypal. I guess I should, but, my "goal" isnt to get a free truck... I just want the driveshaft fixed and something about the leak would be great, but the driveshaft absolutely pisses me off. If I wanted a 2wd truck I would have bought one months ago.

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95 Honda Shadow ACE 1100.
1999 Plymouth Neon Expresso. 2.4 swap, 10.5 to 1 comp, big cams. Autocross time attack vehicle!
2012 Escape, 'hunter" (5 sp 4cyl)

At least have a laugh hopefully.

If the shop had done a thorough inspection and told you all the faults would you still have bought It?

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Well I can see that you are pretty hung out on this one. And that is to bad. However, I think that whenever you buy a vehicle like that, well any vehicle on Ebay, that if you don't buy it with the thinking that you are going there, personally to pick it up, and making final payment you are asking for trouble. Once you have the vehicle shipped from a "no name" personal party, they are off the hook and you own it.

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1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

If you paid for the vehicle with paypal backed up with a credit card. The card company may help. Otherwise just join the club of people that have purchased vehicles without enough due dilligenence.

We once drove a long way to pick up a museam piece as the description described it. The photos posted indicated it very well might have been. On arrival it was indeed a museam piece. A horror museams. A totally wasted trip for us. There is not much satisfaction to be had but do leave really negative feedback.

do not buy a vehicle sight unseen PERIOD.i won't anymore.bought an 86 sdl from arizona of all places figuring it would be rustfree,but possibly needing interior.well it had rust and still needed interior.never again will i buy a car without looking at it in person.

Hey hey hey he's a nice guy. We all have done something.

It's gonna be a good truck. Little work and you will enjoy it.

I understand after your previous experience why you didn't go see it.

And there is always feedback. Then people will know and avoid him. Best to not sound angry, be progressional, and no one will buy from him.

And the world will be a better place.

Who were your inspectors? How did you find them? Were they bribed by the seller? Problem is it is "my" inspector. Was there a way to escrow it? I usually buy it with a down payment and me placing eyeballs on it but if you hired the clown, the most you can get is a refund of your inspection fee. So how did you come about to hire these crooks to inspect? Was it his friend?

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