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Let's say, just because you have made it clear you will never respect a car not built in the fatherland, that I accept your arguement that waaaaaay back in the day, in the time when dinosaurs ruled the earth, MB built good cars - so what? We live in the present time, and there is just no way their current cars are the best available. Do you even have first hand experience with a newer Mercedes or are you just arguing based on a car that is three decades old? There was a time when a V16 caddy was the best car money could buy, but that doesn't mean squat if you are standing on a Cadillac dealer's lot today. Univac used to build the best computers, so what? That was then, this is now. |
Odviously we should sell all our crap cars, and buy Hondas. Lets change this site to Hondashop.com.:rolleyes:
Its funny if you go to any website devoted to a specific car brand you get threads like this. At Honda sites you have people screaming they are the biggest pos made because the tranny in their 3-4 year old van just blew. Or the windows broke. ABS going nuts ect. Go to a Toyota site now, and see people screaming and threatening lawsuits because their mid to late 90's Toyota sludged the engine up. Defective crankcase vent. Killed a lot of late 90's Toyotas real young. Or the new Camry's that the dealer says flat out will chew front tires because the front suspension is screwed up. Or a GM site, search "piston slap".:rolleyes: Couldn't find a thread like this at Jaglovers.com, maybe I didn't look hard enough.:rolleyes: |
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Yeah right you could flip the C43 pretty quick.:rolleyes:
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Sure - for jack squat. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Check the current market value. My 16 year old Honda is worth about 45% of its original MSRP. The turd C43 is already only worth a third of MSRP. How well a car holds its value is a good indication of its quality and how it holds up mechanically over time. If you really disagree with me, step up to the plate and make an offer on the C43..... |
Don't want a W202, to small for my needs. If it was an S500 I probably would.
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Fastnsx why do you even participate in this forum? Your the one that wants to argue about his Honda on a Mercedes Forum. I was justing trying to say that a Honda Accord will never be a collectable car, justa dependable daily driver. As far as respecting none German cars I own a 2005 Toyota Tundra and a 2000 Mercury Sable as my daily drivers. Both are fine auto's that I enjoy driving and would reccomend to anyone. Yea, an American car that drives and runs great, it's reliable, rides smooth and quiet. The Toyota pickup is one of the finest p/u trucks I've ever owned and performs whatever tasks I request of it without effort. Sure my Benz is old but it's a beautiful car that has real chrome, thick leather, and none of those worthless luxury options that do nothing but cause headaches after a few years. I participate in this Mercedes forum so I can educate myself on resolving and fixing problems that do occur on my "Mercedes". You on the other hand appear to only want to whine and cry about your problem car. I've put alot of time and effort into restoring my car and I don't mind getting my hands dirty doing it, I consider it a labor of love. I don't need nor do I want a expensive flashy car, and If I did it probably wouldn't be a Mercedes or any other European car.:rolleyes:
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All I have been hearing about is The Japanese reliability, depreciation, bla bla. Ever look at the paint on most 16 year old Mercedes? Ever look at the fit, the tolerances, the lines? Come on people. Now look at that same 16 year old Nissan, or Toyota. The paint on my 1990 300E looks like it was applied yesterday. Original paint job, not a bubble, a flake, a fade, nothing. Its shines like no tomorrow. Granted the car only has 110,000 miles, but its still 16 years old. And spent most of its life in the geat midwest of the US. Salt, snow, potholes, you name it. I can drive my wifes 97 Maxima down the freeway, and I have to shout to speak with her from all of the wind noise. My Benze is like being inside of a coffin, I think. I have had the car three years, and replaced the front brakes, one headlight bulb, six plugs, and a new pine air freshener. That one killed me. $ 1.95 can you believe it?
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Ya see, that's what I'm talking about. My 27 year old Mercedes also has the original shiny paint(two small dings and a scratch), doesn't need repaint. Leather is still nice (a few small scuffs just for character). Still something to be proud of....:)
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I own a 1996 Honda Accord EX-R V6 and a 1995 Mercedes-Benz E420...both cars were purchased brand new...if you want an objective comparison based on an owner of both marques on which car is more reliable, I would say that they are pretty much on par...in terms of the Honda, other than the waterpump failing a few years ago, I don't think I recall any problems with the car...the lights went a bit berserk for a few days once, but the electrical gremlin disappeared and never reappeared again...with regular maintenance, the car has been running fine...some things I have been displeased with the Honda are:
1) The insurance seems to be much too high for an economy car...not a fault of the manufacturer I guess...these cars are apparently a common target for thieves... 2) Genuine parts are much too expensive for an economy car...I'm sure glad these cars are reliable...if not, I think the repair costs would rival most luxury brands... 3) The paint job doesn't seem to hold up well over time...I saw a small piece of paint that seems to be flaking on the edge of the hood...I do not know what exactly causes this...the paint also seems very "thin"...it is very easily scratched and scuffed... The Mercedes came off the lot with faulty caps and rotors...the dealership couldn't seem to be able to diagnose it properly...the car also wouldn't start after a while because of it...after caps and rotors were replaced, the starter died because I kept overcranking it due to the aforementioned problem...had to get it replaced and couldn't exactly pin it on the dealership...I was quite upset over that entire incident...other than that, the only other out of ordinary thing I had to replace was the alternator...everything else was fine with regular maintenance...the car has far superior fit, finish, power, and road feel comapred to the Honda...but I did pay over 3X the price of the Honda for the Mercedes...one is a luxury car, one is an economy car...I have not been constantly plagued by problems to deem the Mercedes a lemon or a POS... The trend that Mercedes build quality and reliability is slipping nowadays is correct from what I can see...Honda on the other hand seems to be taking advantage of the decreasing cost of technology and have been able to capitalize on them in their Civics and Accords to offer a very good package...Lexus seems to be able to offer reliability as well as luxury in a very good package nowadays...I wish Mercedes and BMW can take some time to re-evaluate themselves...they seem to be a shadow of what they were a decade or so ago... Just offering an objective look from my experiences... |
I love how you guys talk about MB cars built a long time ago as if they had anything to do with their current products. I fully agree that there was a time, many years ago, that Mercedes built a hell of a car. That's why I bought one - I hadn't realized how much their quality had slipped over the past decade or two.
The original point of this thread (the one a couple of you seem to unable to grasp) is that, based on my experience, they no longer lead the market on quality. One of the things I used to love about MB was how long the paint lasted. I can assure you, that is no longer the case. My paint job not only looked like it had orange peel all over (they were all like that), but it is flaking off and chipping in many places. I was tempted to take it to a body shop and have it color-sanded the day I bought it. "450slcguy", you really are entertaining. I don't say this too be mean, but if you don't like the thread, go away. No one is forcing you to participate (over and over and over). This thread is about Mercedes quality vs the rest of the market and that subject is very suitable for a Mercedes forum, whether you like it or not. Your whinning about the 'good old days' is amusing. Do you think those dinky little three-door A class Mercedes will ever be "collectable cars"? What does that have to do with this thread? You sound like an old man standing on the porch shaking his fist at "those kids of today." I have to repeat my earlier question - do you actually own a late model Benz or are you basing your opinion about their current quality on a decades-old product that has NOTHING to do with what they are selling today? |
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For example, I used to own a LOT of Porsches, but I haven't had one in about ten years. If I were in a discussion about Porsche's build quality on their curent cars, I wouldn't dream of basing my opinon on the ones I owned because they have no bearing on the subject. The same with Ferrari. I had a beautiful little Dino 246gts, but my experiences with that car don't mean crap when talking about a Modena. It just common sense. I loved my early production Shelby GT350 (damn, I miss that car), but what does that have to do with the current Mustang? Squat! |
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most of us here own older mb's....
and many of us own mutiple mb's and what happens is we wind up having one from each decade... so we have experience. my experience is the newer they are the more trouble and maintenance they require.... i was recently at the mb dealer and the new mb's have the same body as the dodge intrepid... and my dodge intrepid 2002 engine failed.. and it is now in the bone yard...just picture a dodge intrepid with an mb emblem on the front.... its like when amf bought harley.... I also listen to german shortwave and the germans are saying their quality sucks.. |
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Just look at this thread: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=147397 It wasn't exactly met with much resistance by members... It seems mbworld.org members are happy with their cars though...they seem to be in a state of bliss and worrying about wheels and bodykits...if they have the time for that, I doubt that they are being pestered by much if any mechanical problems... |
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Mercedes are the best
I have had my 240D for only a couple months, but i bought it because i knew mercedes, expecially the older diesels, were an excelent investment, of course my baby is 23 years old and things are going to go wrong, But let me say this, i just replaced the starter in my car, I come to find out, that that is the orginial starer on my car. ITS 23 YEARS OLD!! how many Hondas do u know that can do that? Also my car has abot 238K on it, and starts up faster and better than my 97 Nissan altima with only half the miles. I dont care how much money i have to put into my mercedes, I wanta keep this thing running forever!
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Reliability-wise, I can give the S-class a little bit of leeway, since that is where most of the new technology is introduced and then gets filtered down. It has always been that way. Buyers should accept that they are driving cutting edge vehicles, with very complicated systems, that may have issues during ownership. However the E-class, C-class, and their derivitives need to be rock solid. Those are their bread 'n butter vehicles that form the reputation of the company.
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I used to think I had problems where there were none & had (and still have) issues with the excessive prices MB dealers charge for service.
Once I got the WIS (workshop info. system - the shop service manual) that the dealers use, I was able to fix most things myself and at least understand what was being repaired by the stealership. You can get the 2006 WIS for free that covers all models 82 and newer at http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3478993 Now I love my Benz! |
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How can the WIS be ordered? I went to the Piratebay website but everything was so small, I couldn't read it. P E H |
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While a Mustang or Honda might be fast and reliable their plastic interiors and thin sheet metal and low end technology does not do much for me...... If your looking for "bang for the buck" that need is probably best served in a car other than a Mercedes...... Additionally one of the other reasons I drive Mercedes cars is I don't really care for "disposable" high end consumer goods...... Mercedes makes parts for the lifetime of the car..... American and Japanese cars drop parts support as quickly as they can in most cases...... Its difficult to get OEM parts when your Domestic or Asian car ages....... I have friends that are into high end audio equipment and criticize me for my choice of Bang & Oulfsen Audio equipment..... They say "for the price you paid for that you could get a much better performing system"..... The reason I bought my Bang & Oulfsen is they also have the same idea on parts and you can still get original parts and service for even some of their original equipment...... |
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THink about it guys. Expensive to fix. Parts are also expensive. High maintenance. All of these is good news. If you are poor dont try to own this car. That just left few of them on the road. You can also buy Camry or Accord where you look like everyone else on the road. I would rather drive my 1995 E320 in style:D
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With these cars knowlege is power.... They can be the most expensive car in the world to maintain if your willing to hand over your money like a fool.... On the other hand if your a smart buyer and shop around they can be one of the cheapest cars around.... When someone says "its a Mercedes" to justify their outrageous parts or service price I look somewhere else to serve my needs... If I wanted to be exclusive I would buy a Rolls Royce or Maserati Quattroporte.... I like Mercedes cars because they are a high quality well engineered car that lasts forever.... I don't like Honda and Toyota cars because they feel so cheap... I had a 2002 Accord Coupe I bought because it was supposedly the "icon of reliability" and the doors closed like they were made out of recycled diet coke cans.... My 82 300SD has fabric wrapped door seals and a lot of trim pieces.... My 2002 Accord had a cheap piece of channel plastic covering the body welds and a cheap rubber seal for the door with painted metal showing inside the car where trim should have covered it.... The Japanese copy from the best engineering wise but market their cars for the masses where price is of the greatest importance.... A couple bucks saved on cheaper plastic and lighter metal and less finish trim means more profit and a lower entry price.... |
Face the facts if you can stand them!
Ok guys, this original post has had some 56 THOUSAND views!!
Let's look at a few FACTS, because I think everyone's forgotten a few things... 1) Hondas and Toyotas wouldn't even be DISCUSSED here if they weren't DAMN GOOD CARS:eek: . Face it fella's. They RARELY BREAK:eek: . They are INCREDIBLE cars:eek: . And they have BEATEN the Germans at reliability, hands down:eek: , for anything made since 1986. And that's 20 years ago. With MB, you have to tiptoe as to which one models to avoid that can swallow your wallet whole in repairs (350sd anyone? What's that cost, $9,000 to REPAIR?). Would someone please find me a Toyota or Honda forum for a bunch of repairs? One probably don't exist, and if it does, I doubt people are posting such serious problems. With Jap cars, you can pretty much throw a dart at a board, and win every time. 2) Look at Consumer Reports repair and reliability info. That's based on thousands of replies, not 1 person's view. MB a/c engineers should have been SHOT for making such a problematic a/c unit!! Can anyone (sane) argue with that? They cost a fortune to fix; several thousand dollars in some people's case. A Jap car would have cost $70 for a simple freon recharge after 20 years. It's SAD to see some MB owners sweating like a PIG in the summer (and you know who you are), THINKING they are driving a superior car, feeling above the guy in the ...lowly Toyota or Honda.... (who is buzzing around nice, cool, and comfortable).... wishing he too could own a Mercedes. 3) Compare the curb weight of these similar sized cars, Camry, Accord, which is about 2857 pounds vs. a MB 300E, at 3435 pounds. That's about 600 POUNDS extra on a MB. That's like the weight of a fully loaded refrigerator extra than the Jap cars. The extra weight uses more gas, but you gain safety in a crash, and they add in a nicer, quieter car. That's worth something. 4) Mercedes aren't made for the average Joe. They are made primarily for those WITH A LOT OF MONEY. Those with money wouldn't COMPLAIN about repair costs; they don't CARE! (However, no one wants a constant PROBLEM, either.) The rich just want a nice riding car, not economy, not low repair bills. It's my understanding that in the OLD days, MB's were the "poor man's car" in Germany, because they would buy one new when they were young and keep it for many years. You can drive both cars for let's say 200,000 miles, with the MB costing a lot more in repairs. But for that 200,000 miles, with a Mercedes, you will have had a nicer riding car. Not a cheaper car, but a nicer riding, quieter, more stable car. Average Joe cars is not what MB was making. 1991 300d, 90 k (I've heard the diesels have fewer problems) 1988 300e (sold in 1998, due to TOO MANY REPAIRS NEEDED) |
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Look at my signature below. I own a Honda too! go to www. s2ki.com and you will be able to read about MANY problems owners have had with their Honda S 2000s. And you can read about warranty problems, extended warranty problems, and plain old dealer repair problems too. I am not bringing this up over any "sour grapes" issues, as my Mercedes, my Honda S 2000, and even my old Ford pickup have given me PERFECT service since I bought them new. But you asked for a car owner's website for some makes, including Honda, where you could read about some problems, so I am giving you one! Thanks, Richard Ruth Membership Chairman, Central Oklahoma Section 2004 C 320 2001 Honda S 2000 1998 Ford Ranger |
JBACH36,
I havent read through all the previous posts but from your I will point out one glaring oversight. R&D. Ask any car buff what technology is going to be on the "average" car in the next 10 yrs and they will tell you to look at the current S-class. So you are right that in the moment Japanese cars are more reliable and simpler to own etc..but without someone trying out new ideas and systems such as Mercedes and other German makes you would be driving the same basic Japanese car in 10 years as your are today only with some new sheet metal to go with the latest trend. Dont think so? Guess how many part numbers are the same for a 94 Toyota Camry and a 2001 Lexus ES300:eek: You have a point, Japanese cars are more reliable in terms of immediate function now but what about for the car industry as a whole in respect to advancement? (And no the current fad of hybrids doesnt apply - get a deisel :D ) |
It's relative
There is no absolute standard for "too troublesome." It's always a question whether it's too troublesome or expensive or whatever for some particular person.
Mine is not too troublesome for me. I love my car and I have to fix things about it A LOT less often than I did my three Saabs.:cool: If it's too troublesome for you, or the pleasure of driving a Benz isn't worth whatever trouble it may be to you, then by all means get a Camry. |
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this forum will be the reason i by another m-b. its nice to have somebody to help out people like me who has some mechanical ability but doesent know the brand. also i had a bad experence with the local m-b dealer. wont go back there.
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It's perspective
That seems to be the difference. It's all in one's perspective as to what is the best. What is it you're looking for. It's obvious that there are a lot of people here who value the craftmanship, etc. of MB's. The Europeans seem to have a cache that the Japaese have never been able to match. Japanese cars just seem so aesthetically sterile.
It's like the difference between the Greeks and the Romans. The Greeks produced the most elegant art, music, and literature, etc. The Romans conquered the Greeks, though. Then they spent the next few hundred years improving on the stuff the Greeks had come up with. Didn't produce anything particularly dazzling or novel, just incrementally better. There's not right or wrong in this debate. It all depends upon what the individual values most. |
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I suspect that all the new MB-models, too many if you ask me, is what makes the service less good since the mechanics have no chance to learn a model properly. When I come in with my -94 C124, they say that it was long ago they had one in the workshop...?
What I like though is that these old machines, despite some flaws, seems to last longer than any new car and the feeling to drive is still better than any of the newer cars I have tried out. A lot better! As many has stated before, they donīt build this quality anymore. Except in the G-class... :) |
What do you want to devote all of that time . . .
What do you want to devote all of that time, money, attention, blood, sweat, and tears to? A classic car like a Benz or a rice rocket? I think aesthetics, history, and tradition, as well as engineering all make the MB a much worthier subject for all of our efforts.
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Are Mercedes-Benz too troublesome?
Yes they are and thank GOD for that! Otherwise, they'd be too damn expensive to buy used and every tight wad a-hole that loves to stick it in your face every chance they get that they never spend fooliskly, like you do, would be driving one.
You know, I used to love Harleys too, until they ironed out all the bugs. Now, look who's driving them, my f'n grandma! You wouldn't catch me dead on one. I was made in Germany too. You think I'm perfect? No, and you don't see my wife running out, trying to replace me with a hard working, bright Asian fellow with a small pecker do you? I say we keep the general public thinking that these cars are expensive to repair and troublesome so that we can pick them up for a song on the used car market. I love it when the wanna be rich dump their expensive luxury cars for pennies on the dollar, just to prove that they don't need the money, when they really do. And I don't want to drive the same kind of car that some 18 year old got for graduating high school, despite the ADD and drug charges. Then, when they crash into a tree after a wild drunk-fest and their mangled Civics wind up parked in front of their school, as an example of what not to do with your life, Pops will be wishing he bought junior a safer car like a Mercede-Benz and after all, the more time it spends in the garage, the more time you have to take a walk. Hard to spend money on foreign oil when you're walking! Who's laughing now? |
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If you own both at the same time like a Jap car and German,I tend to agree Jap built car that last longer and less maintenance. I have civic VX 92. That little thing give me 48 m/g and hardly ever need any work on it. Now I own MB E320 1995 I am 2nd owner. I like my MB too but I have to agree that cost of maitainnance is high. But man ! It is worth paying for that cost I look cool on MB:)
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The cost of looking cool?
So nkpnkp, are you saying you only have a MB to look cool? I mean, are you saying MB's aren't really better, but they cost more, keeping most people out of them. Are they just for people on low on self esteem?
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Some of you guys are scaring the **** out of me! I just bought a 1993 300E from a very reputable MB garage that also sells used MB's. They have maintained the car since selling it to the previous owner in 2001. It has had a full valve job, heah gasket, radiator, wiring harness, brakes, etc. I felt very comfortable buying this car as a daily driver that would give me 100k trouble free miles; after reading some of these posts I'm not so sure.:eek:
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too much trouble hmmmmmmm.
okay there is really only one thing wrong with mercedes benz and the same thing is wrong with all of them.if you spend two hours in the left front seat driving down the highways and byways you are screwed for the rest of your life you wont want to drive anything else.david poole european performance dallas tx.
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Mwood repairs
Mwood, you said the car you bought has had a full valve job, heah gasket, radiator, wiring harness, brakes, etc. With the exception of brakes, you mentioned a lot of serious repairs. You didn't say how many miles your car has on it. Assuming the car has 100k miles on it, a Honda or Toyota would have had none of those jobs done; it probably wouldn't have needed them until 250,000 miles. I'm assuming you will soon be needing an oil and transmission gasket (about $500 each), and if your a/c works, that's a bonus; most don't, unless they've had extensive work done on them. Think about $1,300, and even then you have a so-so a/c system.
The diesel is supposed to outlast any of them, that's why I bought a diesel. I won't have another gas MB, too many problems. 1991 300d, 92k |
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I used to say I'd never have anything but a Mercedes-Benz. With my latest car (1993 S500) I'm not so sure. It's not the repairs that bother me (did I REALLY just say that???!!!). It's the fact that it has to go in time and time again FOR THE SAME DARN THING! I have now finished my 5th (yes that's right FIFTH!) trip in to fix the automatic Climate control.:eek: When I bought the blasted thing I knew that it would be more expensive to fix than my trusty '84 300SD, but my God! Five times to fix the same problem! In addition, every time I think "Thank goodness that's over with. Now I can enjoy the thing for a while" BAM! A new problem comes up. When I bought the "17 foot black furnace on wheels" it DID have high miles, but I was assured by the dealer's service department that it had been serviced regularly and had been a reliable car. The evaporator had been replaced and the closing assist pump had been replaced so I thought I was okay and paid $8000 and was happy. I had the timing chain, tensioner and guides done as a precaution (I have a 380SL so I know what a broken chain can do!) and went on my merry way. Two days later the plastic grommet on the accelerator cable broke leaving me stranded. A week later the fan clutch went south. Then the ASR light started lighting up requiring a new ETA and I threw in a new wiring harness just for kicks. Then the door assist pump quit, followed by a new set of rear shocks ($795 apiece plus labor) now the ACC (I had them replace the serpentine belt and pulley after 4 trips in.) It worked for 4 days then quit. Refused to work on Friday and now has decided to start working again....for how long...who knows?
Don't get me wrong. I love my S500, but I wonder just how much more I can take before I have to give it up. I have had 5 Mercedes-Benzes over the years, but this is the most frustrating one I've ever had. NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO SERVICE THE DARN THING AND KEEP IT RUNNING FOR LONGER THAN A COUPLE OF WEEKS! |
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Am planning to buy a new car. Dealer sells both BMW & MB's. Which is a better bet (risk)? Have heard MB has dumbed down their cars to Chrysler level but that BMW's don't hold up too well. What say you experts?
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Why complicate your life? Buy Japanese.
Which to buy, a BMW or MB you asked. I've heard time and time again, older BMW's, were awesome, AWESOME cars. Mind you, if you buy a used 325 series, they're the cheap end of the line, so many of those people often didn't invest money to take care of them. Most BMW's have been beaten by their owners because they're a very sporty car.
Even if I could afford it, I would never, never buy a new MB from what I heard. Problem city. And their climate control systems STILL suck, after 30 years!! I don't know about new BMW's. I think they've retained a lot of their quality over the years, but I don't know. WHO NEEDS THE PROBLEMS of guessing which MB is a good model or not? If you're in the higher price range for a car, buy a Jap car, Honda or Toyota manufactured car (Lexus, etc.), and live life at places OTHER than a repair shop. Might even want to look at Lincoln's. Could you imagine spending your money with an American car manufacturer? But I think Lincoln's have been fairly decent, check Consumer Reports for more info. jeff |
Found while perusing EBay:
Edit comment: Sorry, I can't seem to get the link to point to the exact review. If you go to the Reviews and Guides from the link and search 'Mercedes', select only for 'EBay motors' (there are about 48 of them)the one I read is on the list on page 2. The review is Benz LEMONS Beware of any 2000 through 2005 models. Try Other 'informative' titles from this same guy: Benz DEFECTS are worse than ever Benz SCAM with certification of Starmark Vehicles Benz Deceptive ads for Certified Pre Owned Vehicles Of course, these and many like them were all likely penned by disgruntled EBay buyers, who may be venting their frustrations on Mercedes instead of EBay... |
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Lol...this thread is like a good, old Mercedes - it won't die easily! :D
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What still surprises me is that I've done NOTHING to the engine since that post, other than regular oil changes. It still has all the original valves, valve stem seals, injectors, you name it. Other than some standard maintenance - a ball joint, new muffler, alternator brushes, etc. - I haven't had to do anything major to the car. Tranny is original, shifts perfectly. Interior looks great, no dash cracks, leather looks nicely broken in but hasn't cracked or faded. Only real upgrade I made was to the audio system - I added two amps and a sub in the trunk. So is my car troublesome? It has been the best vehicle purchase I have ever made and I'm starting to wonder if it will be the best EVER. I'm not sure I'll be able to get a newer Benz to go this distance, with so little work required, but I will try. I think she'll get a carwash tonight. ;) |
I also drive a much used C280 and have never spent a dime for repares. Oh, of course oil changes but nothing more than tires. These cars seem to be like the energizer bunny.
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