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Old 07-07-2011, 11:34 PM
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Welcome to the forum fordster,
You will find much more on alt fuels in the alt fuels sub forum at the top of the DD page.
I am surprised that our mod missed this thread when he moved all the alt fuel threads there.
Every one in DD is keen to help any one who has any question about MB diesels !!

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Old 07-08-2011, 12:19 PM
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om617 engines consume many gallons of cranks oil during their lifetime.
It bypases many seals in the engine.
Turbo, fuel pump, vacuum pump, piston rings, etc.
Not to mention the swirl canister in the intake.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:29 PM
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I'm experimenting with water wash to see if carbon drops with water.30 minutes after mix,no carbon with water.I will wait over night,drain water and add Clorox at 1% to see if it affects color of oil.I hate turning my filters and tank black.water does have a little blackness to it.Draining water,an adding blech mixture.Will shake for 5 minutes.
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om617 engines consume many gallons of cranks oil during their lifetime.
It bypases many seals in the engine.
Turbo, fuel pump, vacuum pump, piston rings, etc.
Not to mention the swirl canister in the intake.
But it doesn't pass through the injector pump and injectors that way.
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:56 PM
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I didn't say it did.
Nor did I state any opinion.

My experience running wmo is limited to o couple of tanks full.
It ran great, didn't clog, or break anything.
I just did not like the mess I made using it in my filtering system.
And the exhaust smell.
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:05 PM
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failure bleach mixed with water cause oil mixture to stay mixed with no seperation.I will save my wmo for waste oil heater.
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Old 07-10-2011, 02:08 AM
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The water and bleach are staying suspended in the wmo?

What is the consistency?

Syrup, foam, gel, etc ?
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:48 AM
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Old 07-10-2011, 09:42 PM
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I'm experimenting with water wash to see if carbon drops with water.30 minutes after mix,no carbon with water.I will wait over night,drain water and add Clorox at 1% to see if it affects color of oil.I hate turning my filters and tank black.water does have a little blackness to it.Draining water,an adding blech mixture.Will shake for 5 minutes.
The water or Chlorox will not work.
Soot is not pure carbon, its more like the next stage on from tar, more like an oil equivalent to coal. Its hydrophobic (doesnt like water), Problem is that anything that will dissolve/mix with the soot, will also mix better with the oil.
Sorry to be a kill joy, but I cant see the benefit in you trying to reinvent the wheel.
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:50 AM
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well i washed wvo,and oil is just millon year old wvo.
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well i washed wvo,and oil is just millon year old wvo.
Not quite !!
Mineral oil is not related to veg oil at all. They are chemically very different.
veg material turns into coal & then maybe diamonds (rough diamonds ~ a bit like some of us !! ). Crude oil comes from decomposed animal remains. Crude is a hydrocarbon, veg oil is a triglyceride.

Trying to get soot out of WMO is like if you had grease dissolved in ULP & tried to get it out. You need a vacuum fractional distilation tower (refineries have them) to do it.
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How does a vacuum fractional distillation tower work ?
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:05 PM
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Now they have changed it to animal remains.Tell the truth scientist.At a pole shift,giant square miles of land,with glow hot rock beneath,slam down on miles of land with animals and forest.Coal seams are forest that were buried quickly.Animal herds crushed by burning landmass were squeezed for their body fluids(now oil).
This popleshift will be different as man will become the new oil.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:07 PM
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How does a vacuum fractional distillation tower work ?
Best you just ask wikki, google or a college chemistry student.
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:10 AM
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So I have access to about 300 gallons of a mix of oil,atf etc from a big rig repair shop. plus another 150 gallons a month average. I was thinking of getting it and building a cheap oil heater for my shop, but this thread intrigues me. Could I run that mix in the car with some filtering and preheating to get the water out of it? I would be willing to using it in my 81 since it's blow-bys so bad I could really care less what I do to it's engine.

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