You still need an electric motor to crank that non electronic diesel.

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""I can't spend $100K on a car that doesn't sound like a Maserati."

What? Can't this person find an outlet for a KILLER stereo system?!? With proper installation, even a Tesla can be made to sound like

-an F4 Phantom
-a steam calliope
-a haybailer
-a AA/FA Fueler

Sounds to me like they are just making excuses. Get the Tesla, install the sound system, and turn the sound up to 11!
Just be certain to install the speakers on the OUTSIDE of the car.

Done.

Cheers!

snapped_bolt

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'81 240D For now, a good place to borrow new parts
'80 300TD Probably will be put back into service!
'79 240D BACK IN SERVICE SINCE 09/16; limited use, oil leak. Guide pin r/sealed/replaced. Still a leak. Front crank seal....

Refine the fuel industry for more energy independence, cleaner environment. We need better infrastructure because it sucks as it is. EV's are a bandaid, and could be a trojan-horse effort to get us all dependent on the grid. Then they can jack up the rates, as they see fit, and there will be NO competition. So we will ALL be forced to pay out, or choose to walk. All old vehicles will be made ILLEGAL for on-road use. Planned obsolescence.

I'm sure it's all planned out. You participate in this current EV nonsense, you're providing for the funding of a New World Order.

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1987 300SDL (324000)

1986 Porsche 951 (944 Turbo) (166000)

1978 Porsche 924 (99000)

1996 Nissan Pathfinder R50 (201000)

EVs are not promising and do cheat out on taxes (at the moment). The not promising is due to individual power companies dictating power rates as they wish.

Didnt we see that in nevada some time ago, one of elon musks companies got shot down by warren buffet just by changing a law/regulation in that state.

how would you like it - if suddenly your power rates are jacked up 100% and you are taxed for road use of your electric car, suddenly the free roaming car wont look so cheap anymore.

If there is a plan to sprout up zillions of solar independant charging stations (like gas stations) - then it can be plausible - but being a corporate economy, you will see new regulations/laws being laid down to control such freedom.



as example I have lived in countries where CNG was used as "clean and cheap fuel" - after seeing literally millions of filling stations opened up, NG prices went up for everyone, including the guy who walks to work. (demand and supply)

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2012 BMW X5 (Beef + Granite suspension model)

1995 E300D - The original humming machine (consumed by Flood 2017)
2000 E320 - The evolution (consumed by flood 2017)

I think by 'cheat on taxes' you actually mean 'our tax system is so entirely, completely ****ed that they tax the hell out of us on multiple fronts whenever possible'. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to pay a 'road and use' tax. The federal, state & local governments need to collect X dollars of tax revenue to pay for government services (including building & maintaining roads. Why can't these revenue sources be completely streamlined? The FairTax would eliminate dozens of separate taxes. There's simply no reason for it to be this complicated.

So, in essence - you can look at the current EV lack of road use tax as a giant F*CK YOU to the government.

Have you heard of the petroleum industry for the last century?

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Nothing's perfect, bro.

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1987 300SDL (324000)

1986 Porsche 951 (944 Turbo) (166000)

1978 Porsche 924 (99000)

1996 Nissan Pathfinder R50 (201000)

Is driving a ICE vehicle funding an OPEC-supported New World Order?

Cranking up either of those four options to 11 would more than likely reduce the 235 mile range to closer to 230 miles.

Unless it has a manual transmission. See your sig.
Yet, I think EVs will have an expanding niche or larger market. I think something like the Chevy Volt (hybrid) could be the best of both. That with a plug in module.

I won't predict long-term reliability because I thought the Prius would be a problem w/ battery life and replacement cost, but they seem to have exceeded most expectations. The Tesla Li-ion batteries do seem more questionable. Sure you can make an electric car by stacking a bunch of laptop PC batteries (original Tesla), but not very practical. The Model 3 is a different model w/ custom battery design and manufacturing, but Li-ion still worries me. I have several laptop PC's whose batteries only last 2 min now so must always run on the AC adapter. Replacement batteries are $150, so not worth fixing.

Re range and re-charging, how far does it go if you run the AC and/or travel into a head-wind? Tesla no longer offers free charging. They said it will cost "less than filling up a gas car", which sounds possibly quite expensive. Where I live, as your home electrical use goes up you are charged Tier II rates, which are almost double. I strive to stay in Tier I, and couldn't with an EV. People in rentals (~50% population?) can't easily install home charging. If you rely on a charger at work, what happens if you get laid-off? With public chargers, you risk getting there and finding all stations occupied. My wife took a short trip in her friend's Tesla. It was an adventure. They first had to drive 16 mi in the opposite direction to charge charge 20 min for enough to make the 50 mi trip, then 40 min charging there to drive her home, then more charging for her friend to get back to the Bay. Kind of like the early pioneers venturing out in Model T's.

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1964 & 65 Mopar's - Valiant, Dart, Newport
1996 & 2002 Chrysler minivans

After a complete audit is completed on the existing funding. Throw some skimmers in prison.

Fuel taxes are crazy as is tax decals for big rigs. That money is not making it to where it was intended.

Mileage tax is not the answer either.

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X2, Cook County Il is trying to pass a surgery drink tax of .02 per ounce. If they cannot get that through they will lay off 400 workers at the county jail. WHAT. They are not loosing that money as in that tax going away it is just another money grab, and if they don't get it the streets will be less safe. Typical politician BS.
In IN they just raised the fuel tax by .10/gal said to be going straight to road repairs, they should raise it by .25/ gal if that were the case.

It should be taxed by watts used to charge. Per mile will unfairly hit anyone that drives more efficiently.

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The electricity cost per mile to run an EV is miniscule compared to gasoline or diesel. Any "fuel" tax on EVs would have to be greater than the cost of the electricity even if it's purchased from the grid at peak times. It's much more straightforward to tax miles traveled and it doesn't penalize more efficient drivers.

Also EV battery packs consume some electricity when the vehicle is parked, especially in cold climates. With a "fuel tax" on evs you would be penalizing people who drive less.

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