Amen! It's the inevitable. Don't get me wrong, I love diesels, but EVs just make so much sense.

(hopefully hydrogen dies off quietly)

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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making....
1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...)
1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone*
1977 250 parts car
1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone*
1975 FJ45>HJ45
1981 200>240D (to be sold...)
1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone*
1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist)
2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD

Battery techonology is getting better every single year. No doubt Tesla has the latest and greatest cell chemistry going in their cars. I can't quite remember but normally battery warranties are to 80% of original capacity after 100,000 or 150,000 miles or whatever


No doubt CDI is efficient, but remember an ICE is hardly ever run under ideal circumstances (stop start, idling, running accessories). How much fuel goes to waste every year just idling the world's engines? It would be millions of litres...

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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making....
1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...)
1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone*
1977 250 parts car
1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone*
1975 FJ45>HJ45
1981 200>240D (to be sold...)
1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone*
1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist)
2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD

electric motors will need maint. too,or get to the point of junking vehicle.Solar Flare,Gamma ray burst,or nukes could rend them undrivable.An Old diesel with out electronics,fuel could be made.

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1999 w140, quit voting to old, and to old to fight, a god damned veteran

You still need an electric motor to crank that non electronic diesel.

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I won't predict long-term reliability because I thought the Prius would be a problem w/ battery life and replacement cost, but they seem to have exceeded most expectations. The Tesla Li-ion batteries do seem more questionable. Sure you can make an electric car by stacking a bunch of laptop PC batteries (original Tesla), but not very practical. The Model 3 is a different model w/ custom battery design and manufacturing, but Li-ion still worries me. I have several laptop PC's whose batteries only last 2 min now so must always run on the AC adapter. Replacement batteries are $150, so not worth fixing.

Re range and re-charging, how far does it go if you run the AC and/or travel into a head-wind? Tesla no longer offers free charging. They said it will cost "less than filling up a gas car", which sounds possibly quite expensive. Where I live, as your home electrical use goes up you are charged Tier II rates, which are almost double. I strive to stay in Tier I, and couldn't with an EV. People in rentals (~50% population?) can't easily install home charging. If you rely on a charger at work, what happens if you get laid-off? With public chargers, you risk getting there and finding all stations occupied. My wife took a short trip in her friend's Tesla. It was an adventure. They first had to drive 16 mi in the opposite direction to charge charge 20 min for enough to make the 50 mi trip, then 40 min charging there to drive her home, then more charging for her friend to get back to the Bay. Kind of like the early pioneers venturing out in Model T's.

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1984 & 1985 CA 300D's
1964 & 65 Mopar's - Valiant, Dart, Newport
1996 & 2002 Chrysler minivans

""I can't spend $100K on a car that doesn't sound like a Maserati."

What? Can't this person find an outlet for a KILLER stereo system?!? With proper installation, even a Tesla can be made to sound like

-an F4 Phantom
-a steam calliope
-a haybailer
-a AA/FA Fueler

Sounds to me like they are just making excuses. Get the Tesla, install the sound system, and turn the sound up to 11!
Just be certain to install the speakers on the OUTSIDE of the car.

Done.

Cheers!

snapped_bolt

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'81 240D For now, a good place to borrow new parts
'80 300TD Probably will be put back into service!
'79 240D BACK IN SERVICE SINCE 09/16; limited use, oil leak. Guide pin r/sealed/replaced. Still a leak. Front crank seal....

Refine the fuel industry for more energy independence, cleaner environment. We need better infrastructure because it sucks as it is. EV's are a bandaid, and could be a trojan-horse effort to get us all dependent on the grid. Then they can jack up the rates, as they see fit, and there will be NO competition. So we will ALL be forced to pay out, or choose to walk. All old vehicles will be made ILLEGAL for on-road use. Planned obsolescence.

I'm sure it's all planned out. You participate in this current EV nonsense, you're providing for the funding of a New World Order.

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1987 300SDL (324000)

1986 Porsche 951 (944 Turbo) (166000)

1978 Porsche 924 (99000)

1996 Nissan Pathfinder R50 (201000)

EVs are not promising and do cheat out on taxes (at the moment). The not promising is due to individual power companies dictating power rates as they wish.

Didnt we see that in nevada some time ago, one of elon musks companies got shot down by warren buffet just by changing a law/regulation in that state.

how would you like it - if suddenly your power rates are jacked up 100% and you are taxed for road use of your electric car, suddenly the free roaming car wont look so cheap anymore.

If there is a plan to sprout up zillions of solar independant charging stations (like gas stations) - then it can be plausible - but being a corporate economy, you will see new regulations/laws being laid down to control such freedom.



as example I have lived in countries where CNG was used as "clean and cheap fuel" - after seeing literally millions of filling stations opened up, NG prices went up for everyone, including the guy who walks to work. (demand and supply)

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2012 BMW X5 (Beef + Granite suspension model)

1995 E300D - The original humming machine (consumed by Flood 2017)
2000 E320 - The evolution (consumed by flood 2017)

Have you heard of the petroleum industry for the last century?

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Nothing's perfect, bro.

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1987 300SDL (324000)

1986 Porsche 951 (944 Turbo) (166000)

1978 Porsche 924 (99000)

1996 Nissan Pathfinder R50 (201000)

I think by 'cheat on taxes' you actually mean 'our tax system is so entirely, completely ****ed that they tax the hell out of us on multiple fronts whenever possible'. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to pay a 'road and use' tax. The federal, state & local governments need to collect X dollars of tax revenue to pay for government services (including building & maintaining roads. Why can't these revenue sources be completely streamlined? The FairTax would eliminate dozens of separate taxes. There's simply no reason for it to be this complicated.

So, in essence - you can look at the current EV lack of road use tax as a giant F*CK YOU to the government.

Cranking up either of those four options to 11 would more than likely reduce the 235 mile range to closer to 230 miles.

I dont know where you got your idea from but globally, road tax is collected through fuel sales as the vehicles using the roads are going to be buying fuel. This fuel can be anything and in the future this fuel will be "electricity".

I would like to see you do a giant "FU" and refuse to pay this new fuel tax.. Infact you can do it right now - buy a diesel mercedes and just fill it up with agricultural red diesel. No road tax to pay on that. The only reason your land is lax on this avenue is because EVs are a needle in the haystack, once EVs become the haystack - the game will be changed, including rules/laws/taxes.

as I mentioned above, I worked for about 5 years in places where different fuels were being introduced and every single one hurt and had problems. Introduce CNG and after a year everyones gas bill is shot through the roof. introduce LPG and suddenly LPG costs 200% - even for the rural dweller. In this case - introduce EVs and you bet electricity will be expensive, and to make a segregated tax system for them they would have to introduce more point of failures (like tracking mileage)

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2012 BMW X5 (Beef + Granite suspension model)

1995 E300D - The original humming machine (consumed by Flood 2017)
2000 E320 - The evolution (consumed by flood 2017)

As cars get smaller along with their Combustion engines Im a betting man to say a single seater is in the works for those commutters who transit back and forth to work alone ,an Ultra go cart with better mpg than a smart but with looks .Two wheels only and is called the BLART,TURBO series ,the FART.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrzGaK4p_1M

How exactly is the big bad gubmebt taxing the " fuel" coming out of the solar panels on my roof?

EVs need to pay road tax based on miles traveled which is what Oregon and a few other states are experimenting with.

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