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W210 DANGEROUS FLAW please read (crosslinked in post #1 to all on topic data)
My spring perch failed. This is a documented problem on the W210 cars; NHTSA has four cases they are investigating. There is another thread in tech section for more info, but if you have a W210 PLEASE check your perches because you could be KILLED if they give way on the road!! It is a pain but I implore you to get it checked!! The wheel and spring COLLAPSE and cause one side of the fromt to LOCK UP; you can imagine the loss of control!! DO NOT PUT IT OFF you may save the lives of your family or other innocent drivers. I cannot believe that MB is not RECALLING these cars! Sure it's costly but so is a wrongful death suit - could be hundreds of millions if the car hits a schoolbus for instance! They will have to recall these cars at some point but in the meantime people will DIE!
I cannot overstate the importance of getting YOUR car checked!! PLEASE!! :EDIT: whunter W210 Diesel owners: Spring Perch Failure - Please read http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/95228-w210-diesel-owners-spring-perch-failure-please-read-post639359.html W210 Spring Perch Failure - Please read. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/95120-w210-spring-perch-failure-please-read-post638651.html W210 Spring Perch Failure...Looks Like My Number is UP! http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/bodywork-repair-paint-tools-tips-tricks/218255-w210-spring-perch-failure-looks-like-my-number-up-post1812093.html 2000 C230 Front End Collapse http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/180198-2000-c230-front-end-collapse-post1428181.html spring perch failure @ 75mph on Mass Turnpike http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/236563-spring-perch-failure-%40-75mph-mass-turnpike-post2005773.html Coil Spring Perch Failure - NHTSA Investigation http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/192362-coil-spring-perch-failure-nhtsa-investigation-post1546518.html Spring Perch NHTSA Complaint - Help! http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/177383-spring-perch-nhtsa-complaint-help-post1400204.html Spring Perch Failure on 1995 E320 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/238796-spring-perch-failure-1995-e320-post2031849.html W210 broken front spring perch http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/93093-w210-broken-front-spring-perch-post620790.html Attention, IF YOU HAVE A W210 AND HAD A SPRING PERCH ISSUE READ THIS! http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/123866-attention-if-you-have-w210-had-spring-perch-issue-read-post890028.html W201 suspension failure http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/101089-w201-suspension-failure-post689410.html E300 Front Suspension Rust http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/bodywork-repair-paint-tools-tips-tricks/100113-e300-front-suspension-rust-spring-perch-post680293.html 2001 E320 spring perch http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/246751-2001-e320-spring-perch-post2130368.html 210 spring perches - preemptive welding? http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/199863-210-spring-perches-preemptive-welding-post1619827.html Minor/Surface Rust repair http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/bodywork-repair-paint-tools-tips-tricks/184283-minor-surface-rust-repair-post1469035.html 1996-1999 E Class Spring Perch http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/216333-1996-1999-e-class-spring-perch-post1791161.html Coil Spring Perch Failure - NHTSA Investigation http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/off-topic-discussion/192667-coil-spring-perch-failure-nhtsa-investigation-post1549521.html w210 spring perch question http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/225061-w210-spring-perch-question-post1884214.html :END EDIT:
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Contact MB corporate
Contact MB corporate and complain. They should repair it at no cost to you. Mine started coming apart and they repaired it.
When I asked them if there was a recall, i was informed that there is no recall, but they will handle it on a case by case bases.
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MB paid for half, ok with me cause the car has 180k miles! It took five weeks, they removed the evidence by replacing the whole frame rail!
I think they are negligent in not recalling these cars; one death and they're facing multimillion $ lawsuit. But what do I know. GET YOUR EARLY W210 CHECKED PLEASE
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fix
I don't think they ever made a fix. Get them checked out regardless of what year.
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Is there a list out, showing which years and models might be affected? I want to give this to several non-Mechanical friends. Thanks
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list
does anyone have a list of makes and models that this is affected by? Also a preventive check list. I have a w123 which is from washington state and has a ton of rust that I'm currently repairing.
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The perch on the right front wheel of my 1998 E320 failed and the spring fell out onto the garage floor. Fortunatly, I had just pulled into the garage after driving 60mph and had gotten out of the car. It sounded like the car exploded and the fender came down on the tire. Had this happened 3 minutes earlier, I would have been killed. The car has been sitting at the MB dealer for over 2 weeks and they have not started work on it because MB will not provide written instructions on how to make the repair. I want them to put in writing that the car will be safe to drive after they make the repairs. I have communicated with New Jersey and Germany MB and all I am getting is the run around. My lawyer says that MB will pay, but they will try to "slow play" me to the end. There are several law firms watching the failure situation on the spring perchs waiting until a death, then they will start their class action suit. The service manager at my MB dealer said that my failure was the first one he had heard of. When I talked to the body shop directly one of their people said that he had already repaired one. What is a little lie for a Mercedes dealer? Any comments?
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Wonder why?
Why are they failing? That would be good to know. Is it a design flaw? Poor materials used? How long has this design been used?
Anybody know?
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Poor rust protection
It appears to be an issue with the cars that have lived in colder climates causing the perch mounts to rust.
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With best regards Al Last edited by alabbasi; 08-01-2006 at 07:49 AM. |
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One owner who lost a perch mount lived in Phoenix (or was it Nevada?) but with cars being sold in one state moved to another you never know. Like gsxr says, time to go hug my W124!
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The car has lived in Ohio it's whole life and has 118,000 miles on it. - How common is this on a W124? - What should the repair bill be? - Should they go ahead and replace the perch on the other side?
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read this thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/95228-w210-diesel-owners-spring-perch-failure-please-read-post639359.html#post639359 This problem is something that probably should have its own Button on the opening page, repairing this should only be done by the factory dealer who then assumes all risk for the job being done properly. I think this subject will be on TV someday. Sixty Minutes Special or something. Watch Lexus orders surge! Lots of used Mercedes wil go up FS, its possible!
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'95 E320 Wagon my favorite road car. '99 E300D wolf in sheeps body, '87 300D Sportline suspension, '79 300TD w/ 617.952 engine at 367,750 and counting! Last edited by dieseldiehard; 08-01-2006 at 12:54 PM. |
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Why is everyone so dramatic with the " I would have been killed!" statements?
I have seen a W210 car that had a front wheel come off at 80mph and go into oncoming traffic. The owner walked away after a 125+mph combined head-on. Your car is pretty damn safe even if the perch fails. Here in Washington St., I have yet to see a single example of this failure. We don't use road salt here, which seems to be the root cause. Good luck with all of the lawsuits. DR.D
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Here's an idea since you think MBs are so safe, and a spring/front wheel coming off is not a big deal at all. You can drive my car, and have your entire family in the car as well, and drive on the highway at 80mph for the next 2 months until the front wheel comes off. No biggie right? ![]() ![]() |
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