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Old 03-14-2006, 02:03 PM
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W210 DANGEROUS FLAW please read (crosslinked in post #1 to all on topic data)

My spring perch failed. This is a documented problem on the W210 cars; NHTSA has four cases they are investigating. There is another thread in tech section for more info, but if you have a W210 PLEASE check your perches because you could be KILLED if they give way on the road!! It is a pain but I implore you to get it checked!! The wheel and spring COLLAPSE and cause one side of the fromt to LOCK UP; you can imagine the loss of control!! DO NOT PUT IT OFF you may save the lives of your family or other innocent drivers. I cannot believe that MB is not RECALLING these cars! Sure it's costly but so is a wrongful death suit - could be hundreds of millions if the car hits a schoolbus for instance! They will have to recall these cars at some point but in the meantime people will DIE!

I cannot overstate the importance of getting YOUR car checked!! PLEASE!!


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W210 Diesel owners: Spring Perch Failure - Please read
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/95228-w210-diesel-owners-spring-perch-failure-please-read.html#post639359

W210 Spring Perch Failure - Please read.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/95120-w210-spring-perch-failure-please-read.html#post638651

W210 Spring Perch Failure...Looks Like My Number is UP!
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/bodywork-repair-paint-tools-tips-tricks/218255-w210-spring-perch-failure-looks-like-my-number-up.html#post1812093

2000 C230 Front End Collapse
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/180198-2000-c230-front-end-collapse.html#post1428181

spring perch failure @ 75mph on Mass Turnpike
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/236563-spring-perch-failure-%40-75mph-mass-turnpike.html#post2005773

Coil Spring Perch Failure - NHTSA Investigation
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/192362-coil-spring-perch-failure-nhtsa-investigation.html#post1546518

Spring Perch NHTSA Complaint - Help!
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/177383-spring-perch-nhtsa-complaint-help.html#post1400204

Spring Perch Failure on 1995 E320
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/238796-spring-perch-failure-1995-e320.html#post2031849

W210 broken front spring perch
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/93093-w210-broken-front-spring-perch.html#post620790

Attention, IF YOU HAVE A W210 AND HAD A SPRING PERCH ISSUE READ THIS!
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/123866-attention-if-you-have-w210-had-spring-perch-issue-read.html#post890028

W201 suspension failure
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/101089-w201-suspension-failure.html#post689410

E300 Front Suspension Rust
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/bodywork-repair-paint-tools-tips-tricks/100113-e300-front-suspension-rust-spring-perch.html#post680293

2001 E320 spring perch
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/246751-2001-e320-spring-perch.html#post2130368

210 spring perches - preemptive welding?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/199863-210-spring-perches-preemptive-welding.html#post1619827

Minor/Surface Rust repair
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/bodywork-repair-paint-tools-tips-tricks/184283-minor-surface-rust-repair.html#post1469035

1996-1999 E Class Spring Perch
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/216333-1996-1999-e-class-spring-perch.html#post1791161

Coil Spring Perch Failure - NHTSA Investigation
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/off-topic-discussion/192667-coil-spring-perch-failure-nhtsa-investigation.html#post1549521

w210 spring perch question
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/225061-w210-spring-perch-question.html#post1884214

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Old 03-28-2006, 11:06 PM
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Contact MB corporate

Contact MB corporate and complain. They should repair it at no cost to you. Mine started coming apart and they repaired it.

When I asked them if there was a recall, i was informed that there is no recall, but they will handle it on a case by case bases.
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Old 04-01-2006, 11:45 AM
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MB paid for half, ok with me cause the car has 180k miles! It took five weeks, they removed the evidence by replacing the whole frame rail!

I think they are negligent in not recalling these cars; one death and they're facing multimillion $ lawsuit. But what do I know.

GET YOUR EARLY W210 CHECKED PLEASE
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Old 04-01-2006, 04:46 PM
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GET YOUR EARLY W210 CHECKED PLEASE
great warning.... but how early... did they fix it starting with a certain year?
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fix

I don't think they ever made a fix. Get them checked out regardless of what year.
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:56 PM
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The perch on the right front wheel of my 1998 E320 failed and the spring fell out onto the garage floor. Fortunatly, I had just pulled into the garage after driving 60mph and had gotten out of the car. It sounded like the car exploded and the fender came down on the tire. Had this happened 3 minutes earlier, I would have been killed. The car has been sitting at the MB dealer for over 2 weeks and they have not started work on it because MB will not provide written instructions on how to make the repair. I want them to put in writing that the car will be safe to drive after they make the repairs. I have communicated with New Jersey and Germany MB and all I am getting is the run around. My lawyer says that MB will pay, but they will try to "slow play" me to the end. There are several law firms watching the failure situation on the spring perchs waiting until a death, then they will start their class action suit. The service manager at my MB dealer said that my failure was the first one he had heard of. When I talked to the body shop directly one of their people said that he had already repaired one. What is a little lie for a Mercedes dealer? Any comments?
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Wonder why?

Why are they failing? That would be good to know. Is it a design flaw? Poor materials used? How long has this design been used?

Anybody know?
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Poor rust protection

It appears to be an issue with the cars that have lived in colder climates causing the perch mounts to rust.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:43 PM
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It appears to be an issue with the cars that have lived in colder climates causing the perch mounts to rust.
Corrosion is the culprit but actually the problem is the welds, UNDER the pant and undercoat the welds are failing.
One owner who lost a perch mount lived in Phoenix (or was it Nevada?) but with cars being sold in one state moved to another you never know.
Like gsxr says, time to go hug my W124!
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Why are they failing? That would be good to know. Is it a design flaw? Poor materials used? How long has this design been used?

Anybody know?
The whole story has evolved here and on other Forums. Mercedes knows but won't admit it.
read this thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/95228-w210-diesel-owners-spring-perch-failure-please-read.html#post639359
This problem is something that probably should have its own Button on the opening page, repairing this should only be done by the factory dealer who then assumes all risk for the job being done properly. I think this subject will be on TV someday. Sixty Minutes Special or something. Watch Lexus orders surge! Lots of used Mercedes wil go up FS, its possible!
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Why is everyone so dramatic with the " I would have been killed!" statements?
I have seen a W210 car that had a front wheel come off at 80mph and go into oncoming traffic. The owner walked away after a 125+mph combined head-on. Your car is pretty damn safe even if the perch fails.

Here in Washington St., I have yet to see a single example of this failure.
We don't use road salt here, which seems to be the root cause.

Good luck with all of the lawsuits.
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My spring fell out on the garage floor while the car was parked due to rust on the spring perch. 1998 E320. After the dealer had it for 3 weeks, he called me and said that they "would not make the repair due to liability". How safe does that make you people with the problem feel? The MB people in NJ said they would pay half as "good will", but the work had to be done by one of their dealers. That puts me into a "catch 22" since I do not have a dealer within 250 miles who will do the work. I filed a complaint with the NHSA and my congressman asking for a recall by MB. MB did supply the dealer with instructions on how to make the repair. It required special rivets and a special rivet gun. The dealer is fax-ing me the instructions and as soon as I have them, I will post them on the web for everyone. This is going to get bigger before it gets smaller for MB and they had better wake up and start facing the music.
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This is going to get bigger before it gets smaller for MB and they had better wake up and start facing the music.
Clearly, you've never seen the results when an American tries to tell a German company what to do............
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Why is everyone so dramatic with the " I would have been killed!" statements?
I have seen a W210 car that had a front wheel come off at 80mph and go into oncoming traffic. The owner walked away after a 125+mph combined head-on. Your car is pretty damn safe even if the perch fails.

Here in Washington St., I have yet to see a single example of this failure.
We don't use road salt here, which seems to be the root cause.

Good luck with all of the lawsuits.
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Here's an idea since you think MBs are so safe, and a spring/front wheel coming off is not a big deal at all. You can drive my car, and have your entire family in the car as well, and drive on the highway at 80mph for the next 2 months until the front wheel comes off. No biggie right?




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Why is everyone so dramatic with the " I would have been killed!" statements?
I have seen a W210 car that had a front wheel come off at 80mph and go into oncoming traffic. The owner walked away after a 125+mph combined head-on. Your car is pretty damn safe even if the perch fails.
Your statement isn't logical. Think, how safe would it have been if they crossed the path of a big rig instead? I don't see anyone walking away from that, do you?

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