Poll: Does your A/C work or not? - Page 8 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

vstech · #**106** 03-28-2008, 06:05 PM

oh, and the a/c worked in my first benz when I got it, but it did not work when I started driving regularly. I have had it working and it currently does not.

Knightrider966 · #**107** 03-28-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rrgrassi

My A/C works. I use Freeze-12 also in the MB based on prior usage in my Nissan truck for the past 5 years.

My question is this. If the R134a is sooooo corrosive to aluminum, why are the current 134a cars using aluminum tubing, condensors, evaporators and aluminum bodied compressors?

Because a new type of extruded aluminum has to be made. In the older systems meant for R134A, Aluminum will corrode and leak. A leak as small as 4 parts pre million will cause death. R134A is an odorless gas. There have been 7 deaths and 11 brain suffocations in the US from R134A already. This is why I won't use it. A brain is a terrible thing to waste.

vstech · #**108** 03-28-2008, 06:13 PM

hey! just perusing the history of henry ford, I found that he started the company that partnered with a man named murphy... later became the ...Cadillac Automobile Company was originaly the henry ford company. no idea if it is the same one we all hate that weakly competes with our beloved benz company...

Knightrider966 · #**109** 03-28-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by leathermang

You claimed yesterday that it was a ' drop in replacement ' for R12...
that is illegal....

There are some drop in replacements for R12 and Autofrost is one of them as long as your fittings and retrofit is complete. If you can't be bothered to prepare your system and maintain it well, breath some R134A, please!

Knightrider966 · #**110** 03-28-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech

hey! just perusing the history of henry ford, I found that he started the company that partnered with a man named murphy... later became the ...Cadillac Automobile Company was originaly the henry ford company. no idea if it is the same one we all hate that weakly competes with our beloved benz company...

I remember reading somewhere that Henry Ford was involved in the production of the first assembled Cadillac for 1903. There weren't many of these produced then. Less than 200 I believe.

MBeige · #**111** 03-28-2008, 06:23 PM

Just took a drive today in my diesel after coming back from out of the country and the AC blows cold now after having it repaired and converted to R134A. I guess I had 2 years when the AC worked intermittently, had it recharged with R12 but was too costly. I had to tone it down to room temp (22 C) since at minimum it was getting chilly. I guess I also have low tolerance for cold temps, I'll grab that thermometer and test it once more next time I go for a spin.

Knightrider966 · #**112** 03-28-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech

um... the steam engine was invented in the late 17th century... WAAAAAAY before henry ford's grandparents were a gleam in their parent's eyes...
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blsteamengine.htm

Sorry, I should have said "that was when the steam engine was developed for practical transportation use, like in an automobile. The steam engines had been crisscrossing the country on rails before the practicality of the automobile.

johnathan1 · #**113** 03-28-2008, 06:39 PM

There's no option for my situation in the vote... My AC works...sorta...it's low on refrigerant, so it will produce some cold air, but not much. I plan on fixing it very soon.

I also had a thought the other day...I don't know if it's possible, but we have an AC wall-unit from the early 80's that I'm pretty sure is charged with R12, and the blower fan just seized and it no longer works, but it is still full of R12, and blew insanely cold air up until the fan seized...and will just be thrown away when the unit is replaced next week...is there any way to pull the refrigerant out of it, and put it in my car's system?

Knightrider966 · #**114** 03-28-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by johnathan1

There's no option for my situation in the vote... My AC works...sorta...it's low on refrigerant, so it will produce some cold air, but not much. I plan on fixing it very soon.

I also had a thought the other day...I don't know if it's possible, but we have an AC wall-unit from the early 80's that I'm pretty sure is charged with R12, and the blower fan just seized and it no longer works, but it is still full of R12, and blew insanely cold air up until the fan seized...and will just be thrown away when the unit is replaced next week...is there any way to pull the refrigerant out of it, and put it in my car's system?

Yes if it is R12, but most of these window/wall air conditioners had R22, not R12. R12 Can be reclaimed and reused. This procedure can be done, but this is not something I'd recommend for the do it yourselfer. The wall unit AC has to be evacuated and the refrigerant reclaimed could then be put into your system with it running on the low suction side. You would pierce the refrigerant line with a line tap to remove the R12 and into a storage device. Since the wall AC has to be evacuated before disposal, this might be an option, but please get professional help here.

babymog · #**115** 03-28-2008, 07:21 PM

A friend of mine owned that first Cadillac, sold it about a year and a half ago.

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Originally Posted by Knightrider966

I remember reading somewhere that Henry Ford was involved in the production of the first assembled Cadillac for 1903. There weren't many of these produced then. Less than 200 I believe.

Knightrider966 · #**116** 03-28-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by babymog

A friend of mine owned that first Cadillac, sold it about a year and a half ago.

WOW!

How much did he get for that baby? Plenty I'll bet!

JimmyL · #**117** 03-29-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by vstech

hey! just perusing the history of henry ford, I found that he started the company that partnered with a man named murphy... later became the ...Cadillac Automobile Company was originaly the henry ford company. no idea if it is the same one we all hate that weakly competes with our beloved benz company...

One of the more overlooked accomplishments of Henry Ford was the "N" series of tractors. Affordable, small but with all and more of the capabilities of the tractors of the day.
He had a handshake agreement with Harry Ferguson to use Ferguson's tractors from England as a model, and his very successful 3-point emplement system. Of course later on Henry Ford completely screwed Harry Ferguson and he was out.
The Ford 9N, 2N and 8N series tractors are some of the most important pieces of machinery every made!! {my how this thread is far reaching} Henry Ford is a very interesting read.

Like this: http://www.ssbtractor.com/features/Ford_tractors.html

I just loved my old '48 8N

It was an absolute beating to mow with, though, and used 4-5 gallons of gas to mow 2 acres!

I still loved the sound of that tractor. Sounded like a tractor from the 40's.

Here is the old guy that bought it, driving down the road to where his trailer was parked. He said it had spent it's last night outside.

I was always facinated by the model T's frugality. Even the boxes they were shipped in prior to assembly were used as the floorboards of the cars. {the ones shipped with assembly required}

Knightrider966 · #**118** 03-29-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyL

One of the more overlooked accomplishments of Henry Ford was the "N" series of tractors. Affordable, small but with all and more of the capabilities of the tractors of the day.
He had a handshake agreement with Harry Ferguson to use Ferguson's tractors from England as a model, and his very successful 3-point emplement system. Of course later on Henry Ford completely screwed Harry Ferguson and he was out.
The Ford 9N, 2N and 8N series tractors are some of the most important pieces of machinery every made!! {my how this thread is far reaching} Henry Ford is a very interesting read.

Like this: http://www.ssbtractor.com/features/Ford_tractors.html

I just loved my old '48 8N

It was an absolute beating to mow with, though, and used 4-5 gallons of gas to mow 2 acres!

I still loved the sound of that tractor. Sounded like a tractor from the 40's.

Here is the old guy that bought it, driving down the road to where his trailer was parked. He said it had spent it's last night outside.

I was always facinated by the model T's frugality. Even the boxes they were shipped in prior to assembly were used as the floorboards of the cars. {the ones shipped with assembly required}

Great pics! I forgot about the Ford tractors! That's a neat restoration and a great job too. Let's not forget the Ford TriMotor airplane. This one set a new standard for air travel even though it was noisy! It was very dependable and durable for use in Remote locations!

Skippy · #**119** 03-29-2008, 03:27 AM

Back to the original topic, I sold my last vehicle with working AC (a Lincoln Town Car) shortly after I bought my 300D. My 240D has not had working AC in the time I've owned it either. I have no plans to revive either AC system as long as I live in Nevada, since it isn't needed here. If I move back to Mississippi for the job I want, I may have to change my plans.

Johnt49 · #**120** 03-29-2008, 03:00 PM

Had to replace a leaking compressor when I got it with an R4 out of an Olds Cutlass I have laying around. Been working good since with R12. You need A/C here in Fl!

View Poll Results: About your A/C?
My A/C works great and always has.	19	13.87%
My A/C works great but I had to repair it to get it that way	44	32.12%
My A/C is a R134a conversion and only sort-of works	12	8.76%
My A/C is dead and has never worked (don't plan on repairing)	12	8.76%
My A/C died (locked up) during my ownership of the car	4	2.92%
My A/C is dead but I want to repair it	46	33.58%
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