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Old 12-05-2014, 03:46 PM
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Let me get this right. Here is a pic of the vacuum line I'm deleting. Some people tell me to put bb's in the line. Some tell me to put a block off plate on the EGR. Some people tell me I don't have to do any of this when the vacuum is disabled The EGR stays closed and the flapper stays open. Can someone tell me some solid details?
Simplest approach is to replace the 4-way connector with a 3-way connector. You are correct that, with no vacuum going to the passenger side, EGR is closed and flapper is open. So I don't believe there's a practical need to do anything else...unless you're nervous that your EGR is leaking.

As I mention in another post, if you simply disconnect the line that goes to the passenger side AND you decide to keep the vacuum reservoir in the system, make sure the line from the VR is plugged on the passenger side....otherwise you'll create a leak.

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Old 12-05-2014, 03:58 PM
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Simplest approach is to replace the 4-way connector with a 3-way connector. You are correct that, with no vacuum going to the passenger side, EGR is closed and flapper is open. So I don't believe there's a practical need to do anything else...unless you're nervous that your EGR is leaking.

As I mention in another post, if you simply disconnect the line that goes to the passenger side AND you decide to keep the vacuum reservoir in the system, make sure the line from the VR is plugged on the passenger side....otherwise you'll create a leak.
Should I plug it at 61d or before the vacuum reservoir???
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Old 12-05-2014, 04:00 PM
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Should I plug it at 61d or before the vacuum reservoir???
At 61d is fine. Then everything from that point over to and through the VR and all the way back to the pump is disconnected.

Simpler is better...fewer things to malfunction or leak....when it comes to vacuum routing.
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Old 12-05-2014, 04:37 PM
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At 61d is fine. Then everything from that point over to and through the VR and all the way back to the pump is disconnected.

Simpler is better...fewer things to malfunction or leak....when it comes to vacuum routing.
Thanks! Can't wait to finish up!
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Old 12-06-2014, 01:19 AM
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Just finished and HIGHLY recommend this upgrade!!!

I just did the conversion in about an hour and only cost $100!!
Before the conversion the car was doing 0-60 in 24 seconds.
On the first run after the swap 0-60 in 14seconds flat!
After adjusting the transmission linkage the car was doing 0-60 in 12.5 seconds and shifting perfect! It's a whole new car! Thanks guys! Here's a video of how I did it:
http://youtu.be/g9JZK9bwZbQ
*******update: I deleted this video because I revised it later on in this thread*******

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Old 12-06-2014, 02:02 AM
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At 61d is fine. Then everything from that point over to and through the VR and all the way back to the pump is disconnected.

Simpler is better...fewer things to malfunction or leak....when it comes to vacuum routing.
Shertex, did you disconnect the vacuum reservoir from the BFS?

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Old 12-06-2014, 09:29 AM
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Shertex, did you disconnect the vacuum reservoir from the BFS?

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What is BFS? Does that refer to the vacuum amp or blue flying saucer looking thing?
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Shertex, did you disconnect the vacuum reservoir from the BFS?

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Correction...I misread your question...YES, reservoir is disconnected but BFS still online.
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:01 AM
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What is BFS? Does that refer to the vacuum amp or blue flying saucer looking thing?
BFS stands for blue flying saucer (a designation which, of course, comes straight out of the EPC ).
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Old 12-06-2014, 11:12 AM
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I just did the conversion in about an hour and only cost $100!!
Before the conversion the car was doing 0-60 in 24 seconds.
On the first run after the swap 0-60 in 14seconds flat!
After adjusting the transmission linkage the car was doing 0-60 in 12.5 seconds and shifting perfect! It's a whole new car! Thanks guys! Here's a video of how I did it:
http://youtu.be/g9JZK9bwZbQ
Nice! It's a satisfying mod, isn't it?
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Old 12-06-2014, 12:51 PM
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BFS stands for blue flying saucer (a designation which, of course, comes straight out of the EPC ).
Your trivia for the day: The official dealer-technician term is "FPP", for *ahem* "Flimsy Plastic Part". Apparently the usage became so common that MBUSA had to ask techs to stop using the acronym in their warranty reports. The BFS is a type of FPP... the FPP term applies to most any oddball plastic widget. I believe the term "BFS" was coined on an old MB diesel email list back in the dark ages of the interwebs, before forums crawled out of the primordial ooze...

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Correction...I misread your question...YES, reservoir is disconnected but BFS still online.
So do I disconnect before the vacuum reservoir and leave it connected after the Vacuum reservoir all the way to the Blue flying saucer (BFS)
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I mean plug it on the passenger side Right before the vr, then keep it connected from the vr to the BFS???
I have it disconnected before the BFS. Again I'm confused now.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:08 PM
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If the BFS is online, shertex must have disconnected the reservoir at the split just before the VAC port of the BFS. To me, it's simple - cap the reservoir line from the emissions devices by the right fender then use a MityVac at the splitter just before the VAC port of the BFS to see if the reservoir holds vacuum. If it does, keep it online. If it doesn't hold vacuum, replace the split with rubber or silicone tube making sure to keep any filters, check valves or orifices in the BFS vacuum supply line. No need to spend effort or money fixing the reservoir. It takes a lot of pumps of a MityVac to draw a decent vacuum in the reservoir.

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Old 12-07-2014, 11:37 PM
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If the BFS is online, shertex must have disconnected the reservoir at the split just before the VAC port of the BFS. To me, it's simple - cap the reservoir line from the emissions devices by the right fender then use a MityVac at the splitter just before the VAC port of the BFS to see if the reservoir holds vacuum. If it does, keep it online. If it doesn't hold vacuum, replace the split with rubber or silicone tube making sure to keep any filters, check valves or orifices in the BFS vacuum supply line. No need to spend effort or money fixing the reservoir. It takes a lot of pumps of a MityVac to draw a decent vacuum in the reservoir.

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So Its right if I deleted the vr by plugging the line with a golf tee at the blue flying saucer (bfs)? If I need the vr, I may relocate it to the drivers wheel well and run a line from where I capped off the hose to the waste gate/egr/flapper back to the bfs with the newly relocated Vr in line? I don't know much about vac systems, but I'm guessing the vr needs to be inline to work correctly instead of having a closed end. I'm confused what to do and sorry for invading this thread with all my questions.

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