Diesel Valve Adjustment Wrenches - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

np1023 · #1 04-23-2014, 03:03 AM

I am a amateur manufacturer of valve adjustment wrenches for diesel Mercedes from the mid 60s until 1985. You get two wrenches with rubberized handles and a sheet of basic instructions. At this time I don't supply feeler gauges. $55 for a set. I use paypal, and I ship free anywhere in the us. Overseas is extra. Email if interested nickpogoler1023@gmail.com.

mach4 · #2 04-23-2014, 09:21 AM

Please post a picture of the wrenches - close up as well as sets of wrenches lined up on a table as ready to be shipped.

Sorry to be cautious, but there have been problems with people taking money for stuff that wasn't made yet and then waiting months or more for product...and not communicating.

You've only got three posts so there is no reputation yet established on the boards that would serve to establish trust.

It would also help if you filled out your profile.

...just sayin'

strelnik · #3 04-23-2014, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mach4

Please post a picture of the wrenches - close up as well as sets of wrenches lined up on a table as ready to be shipped.

Sorry to be cautious, but there have been problems with people taking money for stuff that wasn't made yet and then waiting months or more for product...and not communicating.

You've only got three posts so there is no reputation yet established on the boards that would serve to establish trust.

+1

Your intentions may be good but there are other considerations too. For example:

Did you bend and mill some flattened bike wrenches or did you use typical Chinese metric wrenches? Or did you make them out of steel plate? tool steel?

You are asking people to spend money without seeing or knowing what they get.

I have a set of Hazet wrenches that i used two weeks ago to adjust valves, and they make the work absolutely seamless. The hardest thing is getting the valve cover off.

People just want to know what they're getting, and right now, as far as your wrenches are concerned-- they really don't know what you are offering for sale.

If you want to sell wrenches, you have to fix that-- no pun intended.

1983/300CD · #4 04-23-2014, 10:11 AM

Can you make the "third wrench" as well?

I tried the shortcut method a couple of days ago, and found that it works beautifully. Just put the third wrench in there to stop everything from spinning, tighten the top nut down a little bit, and presto! In spec. Next valve...

aieeegrunt · #5 04-24-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 1983/300CD

Can you make the "third wrench" as well?

I tried the shortcut method a couple of days ago, and found that it works beautifully. Just put the third wrench in there to stop everything from spinning, tighten the top nut down a little bit, and presto! In spec. Next valve...

Now that I managed to get a new starter in my car I feel confident enough to do a valve adjustment. What exactly is the "shortcut method"

Dan Stokes · #6 04-24-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aieeegrunt

Now that I managed to get a new starter in my car I feel confident enough to do a valve adjustment. What exactly is the "shortcut method"

The "shortcut" is to hold the adjuster with a 14mm/9/16 and rotate the spring pack (for want of a better term) with the third wrench - or I just used a pair of Channel Locks. If the adjustment is close and you just need to fine tune it, this works great.

I think it's funny that anyone would gripe about using a 9/16 instead of a 14mm. Granted that they are slightly different but either will work just fine. I made my own - just one bent wrench and I worked my Snap-On 14mm in for the other wrench, with fuel lines in place. No issue. When I needed to hold the spring pack I broke out the Channel Locks as noted.

It would be nice to have a spiffy set of the right wrenches but I won't do this all that often so I don't feel the need. And I have to go to Tool Collector's Anonymous regularly (My name's Dan and I'm a Tool Collector.....")

Dan

Stretch · #7 04-24-2014, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Stokes

...And I have to go to Tool Collector's Anonymous regularly (My name's Dan and I'm a Tool Collector.....")

Dan

And it doesn't sound like you've got it as bad as some of us!

I think the thing to remember is that you hear some people saying "just jam a screw driver in there if the valve spins". This is not a smart move - I think this is what caused this to my OM617 =>

OM617 manifold oil = broken valve guide

These are tough old cars - well engineered - but they are not arse hole proof!

Diesel911 · #8 04-24-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Stokes

The "shortcut" is to hold the adjuster with a 14mm/9/16 and rotate the spring pack (for want of a better term) with the third wrench - or I just used a pair of Channel Locks. If the adjustment is close and you just need to fine tune it, this works great.

I think it's funny that anyone would gripe about using a 9/16 instead of a 14mm. Granted that they are slightly different but either will work just fine. I made my own - just one bent wrench and I worked my Snap-On 14mm in for the other wrench, with fuel lines in place. No issue. When I needed to hold the spring pack I broke out the Channel Locks as noted.

It would be nice to have a spiffy set of the right wrenches but I won't do this all that often so I don't feel the need. And I have to go to Tool Collector's Anonymous regularly (My name's Dan and I'm a Tool Collector.....")

Dan

You are still in denial? Collector and Adict are not the same

Buying Tools is easy finding the specific Tool I need that I have not used for a long time is not.

It used to be you could get a set of Hazet Wrenches on eBay for around $60 somtimes around $40 if lucky. But, I am not seeing that now.

Mölyapina · #9 04-24-2014, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stretch

And it doesn't sound like you've got it as bad as some of us!

I think the thing to remember is that you hear some people saying "just jam a screw driver in there is the valve spins". This is not a smart move - I think this is what caused this to my OM617 =>

Guilty as charged

. Although I promised not to do it again!

1983/300CD · #10 04-25-2014, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Stokes

The "shortcut" is to hold the adjuster with a 14mm/9/16 and rotate the spring pack (for want of a better term) with the third wrench - or I just used a pair of Channel Locks. If the adjustment is close and you just need to fine tune it, this works great.

Actually, I did it exactly opposite. I put the third wrench down so that the valve doesn't spin, then moved the nuts just a bit on the threads.

The two nuts will both turn together on the valve stem even though they are "locked" together. To increase clearance, just turn the top nut clockwise and the bottom will go with it. Conversely, if your clearance is too great, turn the bottom nut counterclockwise and it will take the top with it.

Sometimes you will have limited area to work with, so loosening the nuts from each other and doing it the "old fashioned" way is best for that particular valve that time, but it can really cut down on your total time needed for the job and that is good news for an old back and knees.

crazy4diesel · #11 04-23-2014, 10:38 AM

I agree with everything above, we do watch out for each other here. It's a great community, and your price is great, but my suggestion would be to send out a couple sets to people like vstech, mach, rollguy...don't worry they will send them back to you if you provide a return paid shipper. But, they could vouch for them. I have seen the ones from *giant and *source one set I kept the other I returned...there was a big difference in the rubber used on the handles, the thickness of the grip, even the quality of the beginning wrenches (not much there)...I second the third wrench...that's the one I'd really like to have.

greazzer · #12 04-23-2014, 11:08 AM

Yes, x5. If you can build a better mouse trap and do so a lot cheaper, then that benefits the hobby. I will post some snappies tonight of my home made valve wrenches. After realizing that I no longer have the hand strength I used to have, I welded on some handles to my cheapo wrenches which were bent in a vice. Suitable for me ? Yes. Suitable for the "market?" No way.

Please post some snappies, et cet. If you can duplicate the Hazletts, then I will buy a set.

Diesel911 · #13 04-23-2014, 11:26 AM

The heads of the Wrenches should be thinned; Hazet Valve Wrench Head thickness = 0.242

1/4 inch also works.

Diesel911 · #14 04-23-2014, 12:30 PM

I have been following the various makers of Homemade Valve Wrenches on eBay.

The ones in the below picture came and went pretty fast.

The other ones are generally regular Combination Wrenches bent with a section of Pipe or rubing on them.

I think 2 of our Members used the Box end of a Combination Wrench and made the 3rd Wrench.

ROLLGUY · #15 04-23-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

I have been following the various makers of Homemade Valve Wrenches on eBay.

The ones in the below picture came and went pretty fast.

The other ones are generally regular Combination Wrenches bent with a section of Pipe or rubing on them.

I think 2 of our Members used the Box end of a Combination Wrench and made the 3rd Wrench.

I am sure I could make/have made something exactly like that, and inexpensive too. We all want to see photos of the OP's wrenches so they can be considered. As they say on the internet- "photos, or it didn't happen".