I will be! It seems the non turbos get no love around here and no one really has went insane on researching them....till I came on board

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How did you remove the Thrust Piece (part 124) ??

I tried to yank it out with locking vice grips on Screw Plug (part 122)
It did not budge. Oh, and I did remove Retaining Bolt (part 123)

The Screw Plug was very tough to remove, so I gave it a few whacks with a hammer and socket extension. This possibly pushed the Thrust Piece further in. It sounds quiet now.

Ahh, so you want the 84 300D 4Speed I have then... euro, of course, also with the m-pump, but oddly, it has the GMR4 compressor... I'll ask about the large shipping flat rate box.

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

When I removed mine, I didn't remove the allen head screw, I just used my needle nose pliers to pull the gear up. Like you said, you probably wedge it in tight. Only think I can think of is to remove the oil pan, and the pump...then find a thin rod slide up the shaft and tap it out.

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Oh you better believe it!!! Once I get my house situation figured out...I am bringing a car carrier up there

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Ya know... I have a car carrier too...

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

That's exactly how I removed mine. Sump off - pump out - remove the locking screw from the top piece (I think mine came out with a bit of help from above!) - then knock / tap the whole assembly up and out of the engine from underneath.

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

I remove the thrust piece with a slide hammer. There are two different size threaded caps on the thrust piece depending on year. I have one of each that I drilled a hole in to attach the slide hammer. Spare caps are easy to get at the salvage yard. A slide hammer removes the thrust piece with very little effort.

If you do it this way you can leave the oil pump and pan in place. However, if your thrust piece is really worn you may want to look at the pump anyway.

Once you make up a slide hammer rig for this you can easily pull a thrust piece at the salvage yard to see if pulling the gear set is worth the effort. If the thrust piece is badly worn then the gears are probably bad too.

Turbo engines have the same IP shaft as non turbo engines. The gear has nothing to mesh with and is therefore not worn. If it were possible to order just the oil pump drive shaft a used turbo IP shaft could be paired with it. I haven't found a way to do it since Mercedes sells them as a set. If anyone has a way to order just the oil pump drive shaft I'd love to know.

FYI there are three different IP shafts used on OM61x engines and the turbo engine has the last revision. It will only work on engines with a bolt securing the timing device. Earlier engines have a nut on the end of the shaft.

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1969 220D 5 Speed (OM616)
1983 240D 4 Speed
1985 300D Auto 376K
1985 300D Auto 275K

uh oh....don't tell me that I am looking in Missouri and Georgia for a house...so expect a phone call

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Jay, why don't you look in North Carolina ?

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/10414-help-i-need-check-stretch.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

I've got a house for sale too...

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Does it have any parts cars parked in the yard ?

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

hmm haven't thought about it....I have been looking in the super cheap areas, to get away from people...and own my own piece of dirt..

Now that is tempting, won't have to worry about having you ship me stuff

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at the moment, there are 2 60's dodge trucks in the yard, a 96 ford pickup, and a 99 maxima with a bad crank bearing... also, a 90 corvette...

it's a large piece of dirt, but it's not cheap... stupid forclosure bank wants 300K for the place.

but there are a LOT of low buck houses near me if you end up looking my way.

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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

wow 300k, that is wayyy over my budget...I am not like one of those hgtv house show people, I just want me a cheap livable home somewhere...I don't need spacial appliances, suites or 8 bathrooms... At that price, you can get an amazing place back in cali....its like here...middle of no where and you can't buy a house house for under 100k...

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