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Old 07-27-2017, 01:51 PM
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yes, the backlight is tempered not laminated ~ only windshields are laminated safety glass in the U.S.A. .

Some MB rear glass is laminated, have a look at the edge of removed glass to determine this. With laminated, there will be a glass layer , clear glue / plastic then another layer of glass.

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Only the W140's have sandwich glass anywhere but the windshield .
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The W 140 " bullet proof " side glass was double pane ( glass / air space / glass ) not laminated, it was for noise reduction.

I've seen enough R129 90 - 01 SL hardtops for sale that have cracked rear windows, this tells me they are laminated not tempered.

This guy has a star break on rear glass that can only occur with laminated glass.
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Generating a list of MB cars with laminated in non WS positions would be difficult. I'm thinking an easy way to ID would be if the rear defroster lines are stenciled on the interior surface, it is tempered. If the lines can be felt on the inside, it is laminated.
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I know for a fact a 300D rear windshield is not laminated. I had a used one that was stored in the back seat of a hot car. I took it out of the car, walked 10 ft into the shade, didn't bang into anything and it shattered into a million pieces in my hand and littered the ground. I assume the quick cooling/ shrinkage going into the shade stressed the glass enough and caused it to break apart.
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Coupes have defroster wires in the glass. I thought it was laminated.
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Old 07-29-2017, 10:38 AM
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Coupes have defroster wires in the glass.
As do 300D (sedan) rear glass (windshield). I am not about to break one to find out for sure, but I believe the rear glass is tempered.
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Old 07-29-2017, 11:29 AM
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Yes, they're all tempered .

I'm still waiting to hear if he got the glass re set .
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Coupes have defroster wires in the glass. I thought it was laminated.
In a 300D the defroster is not laminated but on the inside surface of the glass. A laminated defroster has nothing to do with laminated safety glass, they serve 2 very different purpose.
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No need to break one, just look at the edge of removed glass, it is very obvious.

Any glass that is fogging / turning white on the edges is laminated, this occurs when moisture gets to the plastic middle layer. Tempered glass does not have this failure mode.

From the archives:

Lots of people with milky rear glass corners. 126 , 1983 300 sd
milky rear corners of rear windshield

See post 2 , 1/3 of the way through paragraph 2 W126
LEAKING THROUGH REAR WINDSHIELD GLASS INTO TRUNK - Mercedes-Benz Forum

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http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/body-repair/106944-removal-rear-windshield-w126.html
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Glass is not in yet. Still waiting for it to be shipped with parts from germany through classic center. I can't help with the tempered vs laminated question since the glass is still sitting with the old seal on it to give it any extra support.
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? How long ago did you order the grommet ? .

I got mine in... two weeks maybe .

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No need to break one, just look at the edge of removed glass, it is very obvious.

Any glass that is fogging / turning white on the edges is laminated, this occurs when moisture gets to the plastic middle layer. Tempered glass does not have this failure mode.

From the archives:

Lots of people with milky rear glass corners. 126 , 1983 300 sd
milky rear corners of rear windshield

See post 2 , 1/3 of the way through paragraph 2 W126
LEAKING THROUGH REAR WINDSHIELD GLASS INTO TRUNK - Mercedes-Benz Forum

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http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/body-repair/106944-removal-rear-windshield-w126.html
Exactly.

My 300 cd and my 500 sEC both had foggy edges so laminated glass.

Because it falls into small pieces does not indicate tempered glass. I had that happen in my 62 fintail when I slammed the door in anger when it was sub zero outside.
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Old 07-30-2017, 11:16 AM
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? Your Finny has laminated door glass? .
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No need to break one, just look at the edge of removed glass, it is very obvious.

Any glass that is fogging / turning white on the edges is laminated, this occurs when moisture gets to the plastic middle layer. Tempered glass does not have this failure mode.

From the archives:

Lots of people with milky rear glass corners. 126 , 1983 300 sd
milky rear corners of rear windshield

See post 2 , 1/3 of the way through paragraph 2 W126
LEAKING THROUGH REAR WINDSHIELD GLASS INTO TRUNK - Mercedes-Benz Forum

Post 9 and 13 W126
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/body-repair/106944-removal-rear-windshield-w126.html
Laminating the defroster wires into the rear glass does not make it laminated safety glass. Laminated safety glass has a piece of mylar in the middle.
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Grommet ordered last week but I told him to hold and ship with the parts from Germany that should be in this week.

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