Yup. The swollen ego of the American male is truly a phenomenon. If we take up arms, well the only just and proper outcome is that we stand upon a heap of the slain enemy and proclaim victory.

Vietnam was utterly lost -- fighting a war based on body counts alone is assinine and criminal.

And the hawks are going to go on about "surrender" up until and during their dying day.

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Te futueo et caballum tuum

1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

The phrase 'All men are created equal' is also a fantasy. However it is something worth striving towards, don't you think?

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1985 380SE Blue/Blue - 230,000 miles
2012 Subaru Forester 5-speed
2005 Toyota Sienna
2004 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1999 Toyota Tacoma

Easy: Treat them all as equal in the eyes of the law.

Yes. That was the easy part, and it took 200 years to make it happen.

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1985 380SE Blue/Blue - 230,000 miles
2012 Subaru Forester 5-speed
2005 Toyota Sienna
2004 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1999 Toyota Tacoma

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3472928,00.html

3 US soldiers killed in Iraq suicide attack

Easy to sit in a cozy comforts of your house and declare its going good, try asking those who are getting maimed or ask the kin of the ones who are dying. I am sure you will hear another perspective.

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99 Gurkha with OM616 IDI turbo

2015 Gurkha with OM616 DI turbo

2014 Rexton W with OM612 VGT

Your numerous posts explains why I have long hold times for tech support.

Nope, the only reason you have to hold is because you are always busy dumping your log in the porcelain

This is just one glaring prime example of your log dumping.

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99 Gurkha with OM616 IDI turbo

2015 Gurkha with OM616 DI turbo

2014 Rexton W with OM612 VGT

I have,, have you? Oh, btw, 21 years active duty. Retired now, but still have lots of friends that are in. I'm a Navy contractor now, so I get to talk to all kinds of people coming back from there. Not very funny how this topic started as desertion rates, and ended up degrading to what it did. Oh, lets quit with the CBS news and other media crap, all they do is hype what they think we as citizens want to hear. They can put any kind of spin on any story.

OK...the right wing nutjob is in it now....

Flame on all you pansie butt, still nursin' off momma, bunch of cryin' a** "Can't we all get along???" jagoffs.

What the heck has your asking for forgiveness gotten you??? Nada..zero..zilch...and another bomb up yer booty. How long do you let that continue??

Till yer blown up busted booty is praying to Allah????

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No matter how many times you explain it to me, I'm still right.....Surf-n-Turf

It seems as though the founding fathers of this country had the right idea. They thought it prudent to keep out of the internal affairs of other countries and to avoid alliances with them. For most of our history getting involved in such things has not worked out too well.

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" We have nothing to fear but the main stream media itself . . . ."- Adapted from Franklin D Roosevelt for the 21st century

OBK #55

1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

Exactly...........unless we have strong proven and not concocted evidence that the country is downright hostile to us and in a state of launching an all out war, its just not worth it and in any case, a economic stranglehold works wonder and US has all the clout to do so with total impunity.

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99 Gurkha with OM616 IDI turbo

2015 Gurkha with OM616 DI turbo

2014 Rexton W with OM612 VGT

Nothing like a bunch of Marines to bring peace to the Middle East.

How many divisions does Al Queda have right now anyway?

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1982 300TD 279K.
1984 190D 5sp 265K

I wonder if our Armed Service branches are having a hard-time meeting recruitment goals?

I'm not sure this answers your question, but..

http://www.army.mil/recruitingandretention/

Sometimes it works. Not always.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow