Nope its the democracy lobby.

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I'm glad you recognize it.

My mistake that was not directed to you. My thoughts towards you and your postings need to remain to myself as I do not want to be banned.

Its an open forum, by all means go ahead and spew your thoughts. Others have and still continue to do so.

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Glad to see the topic is back online despite the pathetic attempts by two trolls to divert it.

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Yes the number could "soar" from 0.5% to 1.0%, showing a 100% increase. The real question is whether that 1.0% is statistically significant, considering all other factors. Reported by itself, it could be very misleading.

As the saying goes, figures don't lie, but liars figure.

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2012 Subaru Forester 5-speed
2005 Toyota Sienna
2004 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1999 Toyota Tacoma

STATISTICS

Figures often beguile me, particularly when I have the arranging of them myself; in which case the remark attributed to Disraeli would often apply with justice and force: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Autobiography of Mark Twain

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FYI, Hitler was a soldier in WWI. I don't think he knows how to wage a war.

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We either stay in, and finish what the enemy said we don't have the fortitude to do. Or we get out and repeat the Nam experience. When are we finished? When the Iraqis all together cry uncle. They will beg us to leave, but they will have stopped the sectarian killing and built up their government, police and security to manage themselves without falling apart.

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2012 Subaru Forester 5-speed
2005 Toyota Sienna
2004 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1999 Toyota Tacoma

"...without falling apart."
...speaking of not having the fortitude.

I sure don't see that happening any time soon.

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Unfortunately that, imho, is a fantasy that will never happen.

I am old enough to remember the arguments from the nam days...."if we pull out now all our loved ones will have died for nothing", so 20,000 dead us troops later we still pulled out....losers.

We declared victory though!

Tom W

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

It was true then and if the Surrender Party has it's way (again) it will be true, again.

B

Oh, yeah, if we had only stayed until we lost 100,000 american lives we would have won.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Correct, but its American life and he don't really care too much about that.

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Nice crystal ball. How are things going in Iraq, now?