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Old 03-27-2008, 02:15 PM
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...Aren't those projections accurate, or is there something people haven't been told?
I think those projections state what you will be entitled to receive under current law, but I assume that they have to make a bunch of assumptions, such as whether they will have enough money to meet those legal obligations. If everybody keeps living so long, then maybe the money won't be there.

That's my amateur's guess.
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Old 03-27-2008, 02:42 PM
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If everybody keeps living so long, then maybe the money won't be there.
It is not only that people are living so long. Did we forget that the baby boomers are about to retire? Still think it needs an adjustment? I don't see any way out except a major overhaul.
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Old 03-27-2008, 02:40 PM
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As long as there are people paying in, there will still be money coming out the other end. However, if the pipline is smaller then distributions will be reduced and the eligibility age might be pushed back as the population tends to live a lot longer now.
And that strikes me as the way the Ponzi schemes operate. Only difference is that they can cut and run and be in Switzerland before they get found out.

I wonder how fast we'd be making license plates if we tried such a scheme as SS. I tried but I can't fathom what the difference is between the politicians running SS and people like me running a scheme similar to it.
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Well, If the Supremes have judged it as Constitutional, then it MUST be, right?
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Well, If the Supremes have judged it as Constitutional, then it MUST be, right?
Only if you believe in the Constitution, which makes the Supreme Court the final arbiter on such things.
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Only if you believe in the Constitution, which makes the Supreme Court the final arbiter on such things.
So how did you like the USSC judgment in 2000?
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So how did you like the USSC judgment in 2000?
It was a correct, though somewhat activist, decision. It also doesn't matter what I think. Their decision is the law. Anyone who says that W was not a legitimate elected president is incorrect, IMHO.

The thing that offended me about that case was the ludicrous concurring opinion written by Chief Justice Rhenquist and joined by Justices Scalia and Thomas. Rhenquist tried to justify the Supreme Court's second guessing of the Florida Supreme Court's interpretation of Florida law. He said that the Florida Supreme Court had gone so far off the reservation that it was acting like the Alabama Supreme Court did when it tried to subvert civil rights laws by applying bizarre interpretations of state law. You can disagree with what the Florida Supreme Court did in Bush v. Gore, but to compare them to the blatantly racists judges of the Alabama Supreme Court is truly offensive.

This is a tangent, I know, but I just want to say for the record that Rhenquist was and Scalia is a judicial activist, no matter what Scalia says. I just thought I would say that for the record here.
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Well, If the Supremes have judged it as Constitutional, then it MUST be, right?
Didn't the USSC once ruled that blacks could NEVER become citizens too? Something about a Tany vs Dredd or something like that?
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All your wife has to do is to keep tight control of the Viagra ( happy 10th birthday!). By the time you collect SS you will need the little blue pill.
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All your wife has to do is to keep tight control of the Viagra ( happy 10th birthday!). By the time you collect SS you will need the little blue pill.
She can prescribe me Cialis. Why? The terminal half life of Viagra and Levitra is about 4 hrs. Cialis is 17.5 hrs. Same money, more bang. Me, give her everything she want. Boom Boom long time. Wish you people would do more reading before advocating Viagra. BTW, you also have people seeing blue spots sometimes. I wouldn't take it if I were flying a plane.

BTW, Cialis is a little brown pill, IIRC. 5, 10 and 20mg
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She can prescribe me Cialis. Why? The terminal half life of Viagra and Levitra is about 4 hrs. Cialis is 17.5 hrs. Same money, more bang. Me, give her everything she want. Boom Boom long time. Wish you people would do more reading before advocating Viagra. BTW, you also have people seeing blue spots sometimes. I wouldn't take it if I were flying a plane.

BTW, Cialis is a little brown pill, IIRC. 5, 10 and 20mg
At least you won't be wasting your money on bingo.
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At least you won't be wasting your money on bingo.
That would be a waste. I don't know how to play Bingo. As a Western Union agent, I have a "bingo card" but that is the extent of it
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She can prescribe me Cialis. Why? The terminal half life of Viagra and Levitra is about 4 hrs. Cialis is 17.5 hrs. Same money, more bang. Me, give her everything she want. Boom Boom long time. Wish you people would do more reading before advocating Viagra. BTW, you also have people seeing blue spots sometimes. I wouldn't take it if I were flying a plane.

BTW, Cialis is a little brown pill, IIRC. 5, 10 and 20mg
Speaking of Cialis.. There's something even better for a LOT less money AND available without a prescription:

http://www.nutraplanet.com/search?view%5Bmfg_id%5D=&view%5Bcategory_id%5D=&query=aspire

It won't be available for long. In fact, any vendors who currently have it won't have any more after they sell their stock. Big Pharma already saw to that.

Does it work? Yes. Absolutely. This isn't one of those 7-11 herbal packages (even though it is entirely natural and, in fact, is an herb.)
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Speaking of Cialis.. There's something even better for a LOT less money AND available without a prescription:

http://www.nutraplanet.com/search?view%5Bmfg_id%5D=&view%5Bcategory_id%5D=&query=aspire

It won't be available for long. In fact, any vendors who currently have it won't have any more after they sell their stock. Big Pharma already saw to that.

Does it work? Yes. Absolutely. This isn't one of those 7-11 herbal packages (even though it is entirely natural and, in fact, is an herb.)
Does it have any 3rd party test results from and FDA lab?
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