Who will do the best in this economy?

[The Clk Man]

What do you guys/gals think?

[spdrun]

People who have a business AND a college education. The two are not mutually exclusive.

[The Clk Man]

Originally Posted by spdrun

People who have a business AND a college education. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Fair enough.

[SirNik84]

This all depends on how you look at it. Everyone I know my age (mid to late 20s) has a job, but we're all getting paid about the same. the people with trade skills are making "good money" when you concider they're not in debt with college loans. but about 50% of the college grads I know are make the same money as the people who did not go to college. so would you still call that "good money" ??

I wouldn't devide the world up into college vs no college, but tecnical vs non technical. the people I know who went to college and got a degree in engineering, medicine or someother SKILLS are having the same sucess as people who work jobs in contruction or automotive repair. The people who went to college and got a degree in libral arts are fighting with the unskilled high school grads for jobs in food service.

Seems to me when the econemy is in the dumps people have to pay for their NEEDS (these are linked to the SKILLS I mentioned above) but are less likely to pay for their WANTS, which are normally linked to libral arts degrees.

The rolling stones-You can't always get what you want - YouTube

[Stretch]

I voted for the option that gets as close as possible to "people who actually produce something"...

I would like to think that the days of the "trouble shooter", "consultant" and general BSer are numbered.

I'd like to think that that will be the case. I'm fed up with living in a society full of people who can only talk about a good job.

[The Clk Man]

I based this thread on my own experience. The people that I went to school with that went on to college seemed to be working jobs like Walmart and such. While people that I went to Vocational school seem to be doing really good. Some have their own business like myself.

[cjlipps]

Interesting thread CLK. I like it.
IMO, in any economy, the people who developed a good work ethic at an early age will excel. I read a study several years ago that with regard to college, success in school sort of ran on a bell curve. The folks that got zero parental help started at the bottom (low success) and the folks that got 100% parental funding were at the other end (also low success rate). In the middle with the greatest success rate were the ones that got some help from the parents but also had to work and provide some of their own support.
Around these parts, a college education is definitely not needed to make a good living. There are many energy related jobs that don't require a degree and pay very well. From an income standpoint, work ethic is more important than education in determining "success". The difference seems to be the college grads wash their hands after they use the restroom instead of before.

[BAVBMW]

Originally Posted by cjlipps

The difference seems to be the college grads wash their hands after they use the restroom instead of before.

Wait, it's an either/or thing?

To think I've been doing both all these years...

MV

[cjlipps]

You're just an overachiever

Here's what you want to avoid: (moderately nsfw)

Scrotum Scrub - YouTube

[Thirdem]

Originally Posted by The Clk Man

I based this thread on my own experience. The people that I went to school with that went on to college seemed to be working jobs like Walmart and such. While people that I went to Vocational school seem to be doing really good. Some have their own business like myself.

What is your business?? I want to own a Mercedes-Benz dealership here in Fairbanks. Right now we only have a service center, because the dealer went out of business due to lack of customer service. That will be my main focus, customer service.

[The Clk Man]

Originally Posted by Thirdem

What is your business?? I want to own a Mercedes-Benz dealership here in Fairbanks. Right now we only have a service center, because the dealer went out of business due to lack of customer service. That will be my main focus, customer service.

I have a Printing and Sign shop and have been in business 22 years.

[Skippy]

Well, I'm making a hair under ten bucks an hour putting labels on boxes and putting boxes on pallets. I have a degree. An acquaintance who has no degree but many years of machining experience is making thirty bucks an hour. Machinists and doctors are in high demand around here. Anything else, not so much (unless you want to do warehouse work for low pay-but hey, my waist has shrunk several inches since I started working there).

[JollyRoger]

Originally Posted by Skippy

Well, I'm making a hair under ten bucks an hour putting labels on boxes and putting boxes on pallets. I have a degree. An acquaintance who has no degree but many years of machining experience is making thirty bucks an hour. Machinists and doctors are in high demand around here. Anything else, not so much (unless you want to do warehouse work for low pay-but hey, my waist has shrunk several inches since I started working there).

Your actual problem is that you live in Nevada. It is the worst job market in the country. You want to make more money? Move.

[pj67coll]

Originally Posted by JollyRoger

Your actual problem is that you live in Nevada. It is the worst job market in the country. You want to make more money? Move.

Not so sure about that. I reckon AZ must be running it a close second at least if not in first place.

- Peter.

[Skippy]

Originally Posted by pj67coll

Not so sure about that. I reckon AZ must be running it a close second at least if not in first place.

- Peter.

That's bad because I'm starting to think about other places I'd like to live and Phoenix came to mind.