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aklim · #**331** 04-17-2014, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Okay, what's sharptons excuse then?

Sharpton? What has he got to do with this case? Sharpton is another issue. Why don't you bring Rhodney King into the picture?

aklim · #**332** 04-17-2014, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Oh! Well then. Just send some federal officers out there and murder his two best bulls and kill the family then.

Well, I don't see you offering to keep the bulls AT YOUR EXPENSE till this is sorted out and not sure what his family has to do with it but regardless, it isn't a capital offense to be a deadbeat.

Jorn · #**333** 04-17-2014, 10:21 PM

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I wonder if anyone else has noticed that when our left leaning members represent a statement is fact, the other left leaning members accept it as fact. If OTOH a right leaning member presents something as fact, they are immediately prompted for a link. Of course regardless of the link, it will be claimed to not be a credible source, or not enough participants in the study, etc.

Just an interesting point that some people have conveniently not noticed.

Have you ever fact checked anything before you posted it here, or asked a fellow right wing minded for a link to back up his claim...?

cmbdiesel · #**334** 04-18-2014, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Unfounded and unhinged?

So you get all wrapped around the axle because I innocently used a term that YOU declared as insulting and then you call a different forum member UNHINGED.

Unfreakingbelievable!

This makes me wonder if maybe you were just jerking my chain getting me to apologize for that. Were you just making a chump out of me?

Please don't call honorable members of this forum "unhinged" again.

I called his comments unhinged.
And in the context of our discussion, they are.

cmbdiesel · #**335** 04-18-2014, 12:09 AM

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As I read more about the issue, there is legitimate gray area when it comes to whether or not he has paid grazing fees. He has indeed paid his fees to the state and it is state owned land. The Feds are poking their nose in the states business. State sovereignty seems to be going out the window more and more.

He did not pay grazing fees to the state.
The state has no legal authority to accept payments for grazing on federal land.

cmbdiesel · #**336** 04-18-2014, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Okay, what's sharptons excuse then?

Near as I can tell, he doesn't have one.

cmbdiesel · #**337** 04-18-2014, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

Apparently you didn't read the copy I posted, twice, from the Nevada constitution that clearly shows the transfer of public lands to the federal government AND the rule that the state CANNOT tax them. He hasn't paid any tax to the state. He tried to, but the state government, understanding it's constitution, refused to accept his payment. It isn't state land. Hasn't been for a very long time.

AFAIK it was never state land. The Mexico Cession, in which the lands became US property, happened before Nevada became a state.
That is how I interpreted it anyway.

Air&Road · #**338** 04-18-2014, 06:14 AM

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Nonsense. You're really reaching here.

Reaching? You are unable to see what I'm talking about because you are in the middle of the fray.

Air&Road · #**339** 04-18-2014, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Well, I don't see you offering to keep the bulls AT YOUR EXPENSE till this is sorted out and not sure what his family has to do with it but regardless, it isn't a capital offense to be a deadbeat.

A deadbeat? Do you have any earthly idea how much work it is to run a cow/calf operation? Even a tiny little hint of how tough it is?

Air&Road · #**340** 04-18-2014, 06:18 AM

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I called his comments unhinged.
And in the context of our discussion, they are.

Since you are being so slanderous and disrespectful to a long time member with such a term, does that mean that I should start using the D word again?

Air&Road · #**341** 04-18-2014, 06:25 AM

Harry Reid said that Bundy didn't pay his taxes. He said the same thing about Romney which was proven to be a fabricated lie. How can we believe Reid says?

cmbdiesel · #**342** 04-18-2014, 08:07 AM

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Since you are being so slanderous and disrespectful to a long time member with such a term, does that mean that I should start using the D word again?

Maybe you can explain to me how 'unhinged' is not an appropriate description of greezers posts earlier in this discussion? Maybe you agree with his assessment of Mandela? Or his desire to turn this issue into a racial one? Or the fact that we had a very civil discussion going on for 17 pages until he came in and started the derogatory comments about lefties...?
Seriously Larry. Every thread does not have to deteriorate into 'bash the other guy'.... You should take a cue from dudesky. He has been debating from (IMHO) a weak position, and against several at a time, but he has not called anyone names, and has put forth real information to bolster his case. I have read everything he has posted, and he has made a few valid points. Things I might not have found on my own, and things that others might not have discovered if they were buried in a thread full of name calling and blame Obama...(or Bush)

2010.... 2008.... does it really matter?

You want to start calling people druggie again, that's on you.
I figured you were a better man than that....

aklim · #**343** 04-18-2014, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

A deadbeat? Do you have any earthly idea how much work it is to run a cow/calf operation? Even a tiny little hint of how tough it is?

Can you have a decent job and be a deadbeat parent by not paying child support? Sure. Can he be a decent rancher and not pay his dues? Absolutely as is this case.

aklim · #**344** 04-18-2014, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Harry Reid said that Bundy didn't pay his taxes. He said the same thing about Romney which was proven to be a fabricated lie. How can we believe Reid says?

Looks to me like you are trying to defend this guy or find some sort of stupid answer for his behavior because of your personal bias from the past.