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Old 02-13-2002, 01:24 AM
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89 300E Hella Euros-bulb type?

Good day all,
I checked the data base and became more confused than when I started,(lots of conflicting threads here). I understand there may be some personal preference and perhaps brand loyality, this is all fine and good, However this weekend I will be installing new Hella Euros on my W124 and could use some tips on selecting bulbs. Something safe using the original wirering and I would prefer yellow fogs. I am not interested in blinding other drivers or funky blue colors. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 02-13-2002, 08:48 AM
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I used PIAA bulbs from a local speedshop - they claim to be 100W equivalent light output at only 55W(stock). They are somewhat "whiter" than normal bulbs. ($70).

The euro headlight lens seems to be assymetrical in that it puts more light to your right (pass side) and less on your left - the result is that you see more of the side of the road without blinding the oncoming traffic.

I put regular "xenon" h3 bulbs with a slight blueish tint for the fogs (didn't really look for the amber ones) - they seem to work very nicely as well, especially illuminating the road signs... Their particular spectrum is said to be reflected by the road sign coating better...

I must say that the illumination of the road is MUCH better with the euros...

BTW, what are you planning to do with the washers - if you're not going to use them I might buy them off you as I broke mine during re-installation...

good luck.
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Old 02-13-2002, 09:43 AM
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You may want to review the articles at the following links - 3 independent tests which confirm the physics of why you can't wind up with more total light output by filtering out some of the visible light to get a blue bulb. You CAN, however, redesign the filament arrangement to concentrate that light in more usable areas, with less scatter, for a more efficient bulb.

IMHO, you migh want to try the Philips Vision Plus with the repositioned filaments (see tests). You may also want to install the relays and heavy guage wiring which will optimize the performance of any bulb you choose by insuring maximum current to the bulbs. Enjoy your Euros, they are great.

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Old 02-13-2002, 10:25 AM
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bulb options


jce is right [again]. period.

let me ask you how old you are? age does make a difference in what light we see better. do be careful if you use 80/100 watt bulbs [this should be your max wattage], consider [strongly] beefing up your wiring! is now giving away a pair of "free" blue vision "city light bulbs" with every order.

definetly hook up your city lights!!

i am currently using the philips vision plus bulbs john was talking about, i am satisfied withe light for a 55/60 watt bulb. theses are only available through a european source. they claim 50% more light than standard 55/60's. i have just ordered some osram silver star's which also claim + 50% increase.

piaa makes a good bulb but they are WAY OVERPRICED!

"narva bulb" #48541 is for a "yellow" dichroic coated 85 watt h-3 [fog light] bulb.

another option for you if you like the yellow fog lights is to remove the faceplate from your old lights, CAREFULLY remove the yellow glass cover. carefully remove the glass lens of your new lights [clean the inside of lens- just a tip] put the yellow covers over your new fog lights and you will never have to look for the "hard to find" yellow h-3 bulbs AGAIN.

aim those lights well. you will be amazed by the light output

let us know what you do

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Old 02-14-2002, 02:24 AM
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ANM, thank you for your reply. If I was not planning on keeping my wipers I would box them up and ship them right over. Sorry! I really think they make sense here in the great N.W.

JCE, thank you for the links. The "Vision Pluse" H4s are on the way. 10 ga and relays will go in on Sunday as well.

E Bennz, 36, 20/20 hazel, long walks by moonlight!!! I found (in stock no less) Hella Dichroic H3s. IMHO nothing cuts fog like yellow. And we got fog. Thank you.

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Old 02-15-2002, 04:55 AM
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This place has the important Hella vision plus and the yellow H3's
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