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Old 04-26-2008, 11:26 PM
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Have you ever driven an E300?
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Nice answer, are you a politician also ?
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You are the one claiming the car will go up in flames if you use veggie.

Do you have any real experience with veggie ?
Or are the things you say uninformed opinions ?

It is an easy enough question to answer.
But you might need to get past your inflated ego if your rants are not
based on any experience or facts.


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Nice answer, are you a politician also ?
No, I'm not
I'm just messing with you guys

The only personal experience I've had with WVO is filtering it and heating it in preparation for converting it to biodiesel, but I can tell you I'd feel much more comfortable running clean, clear biodiesel in my car than WVO.

I do have to agree with whoever said it above, it is a shame that E300's are getting cheap enough that they're being converted to WVO. What a brilliant, complex way to ruin such a beautifully engineered car.

Sounds like it's time to sell mine..........mm E320 Bluetec
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Old 04-27-2008, 01:51 PM
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The CDI's are probably safe from the WVO crowed for a long time. They are to expensive and to complicated.

God help you if you pour fryer grease into the tank of a Bluetech! OMFG that would be a $5k++ bill from your friendly dealer!
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The CDI's are probably safe from the WVO crowed for a long time. They are to expensive and to complicated.

God help you if you pour fryer grease into the tank of a Bluetech! OMFG that would be a $5k++ bill from your friendly dealer!
Wasn't there are thread on here a while back about someone who did that? I think it was a friend or acquaintance of somebody on here.
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I think it was a CDI, not a Bluetech. But I could be wrong I don't really remember.
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I do have to agree with whoever said it above, it is a shame that E300's are getting cheap enough that they're being converted to WVO.
I wish! They're 15k cars up here!

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What a brilliant, complex way to ruin such a beautifully engineered car.
You mean adding lye and methanol to perfectly good WVO, and then plugging your fuel filters with biodiesel?
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Where are all of these cars people are saying get destroyed by veggie.

I have yet to find one.

Does anyone have any credible evidence ?

All I hear is lots of horror stories but no facts.

Anybody have any proof at all ?


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Old 04-27-2008, 06:50 PM
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I've been chucking SVO in mine for a while. No flames yet. I'm wondering what BIOpower is on about tbh.

However, you may want to read this:

http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=38035

Although I'm interested to know how often he changed the oil.


By the way, just to annoy you all, I could go and buy a 320CDi this week if I wanted for only £4000 - about $8000 for you.
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I think it was a CDI, not a Bluetech. But I could be wrong I don't really remember.
I think you are right. Your memory is better than mine. I have to much info stored up there, time to purge some files.
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Where are all of these cars people are saying get destroyed by veggie.

I have yet to find one.

Does anyone have any credible evidence ?

All I hear is lots of horror stories but no facts.

Anybody have any proof at all ?


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Hacked up fuel system.


Greasy fuel tank in the trunk, and drilled holes in the cars body to run those lines.


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Where are all of these cars people are saying get destroyed by veggie.

I have yet to find one.

Does anyone have any credible evidence ?

All I hear is lots of horror stories but no facts.

Anybody have any proof at all ?


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Good God, look at the crap on those valves.

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You mean adding lye and methanol to perfectly good WVO, and then plugging your fuel filters with biodiesel?
Perfectly good WVO? Sure, if you call screwing up your car with a WVO conversion "perfectly good." Just look at that tangle of fuel and coolant hoses.

The sodium hydroxide and methanol are added to precipitate all the sludge that would otherwise end up in the engine if straight WVO was burned, as was the case with that TDI ^^^ up there.

For the record, I've never had a single plugged filter between three different diesels, each going straight from petrol to B100.


And yes, the CDI/Bluetec is safe from WVO, that stuff will screw up the high pressure injection......PD TDI's (04 and newer) are also safe.
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Where are all of these cars people are saying get destroyed by veggie.

I have yet to find one.

Does anyone have any credible evidence ?

All I hear is lots of horror stories but no facts.

Anybody have any proof at all ?


RichC

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You aren't lookin that hard. Search Frankie's last posts. There are others too; in addition to many who have gotten lucky and recognized something was wrong in time to prevent more catastrophic failure.

That said, I understand the allure and that some have been successful running WVo blends or in making their own bio home brew. Thats great if you are very organized, thorough, can put up with the mess and have the time and the desire to do so in a controlled manner. Most dont and most mess up eventually. I know of no one on this board who has put a quick 100k on their engine in a couple of years running same. Lots of folks have burnt it for 20 or 30k in the last 3 - 5 years. Show us a few examples of folks using SVO/WVO or home brew fuels for 100k, or 200k miles and make US believers....(I don't want to know about VW's....we are here to discuss MB's).

Before you ask....I wouldn't dream of burning anything other than D2 or commercially prepared B99 in mine; but, show me enough exapmles and I might change my mind.....
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You aren't lookin that hard. Search Frankie's last posts. There are others too; in addition to many who have gotten lucky and recognized something was wrong in time to prevent more catastrophic failure.

That said, I understand the allure and that some have been successful running WVo blends or in making their own bio home brew. Thats great if you are very organized, thorough, can put up with the mess and have the time and the desire to do so in a controlled manner. Most dont and most mess up eventually. I know of no one on this board who has put a quick 100k on their engine in a couple of years running same. Lots of folks have burnt it for 20 or 30k in the last 3 - 5 years. Show us a few examples of folks using SVO/WVO or home brew fuels for 100k, or 200k miles and make US believers....(I don't want to know about VW's....we are here to discuss MB's).

Before you ask....I wouldn't dream of burning anything other than D2 or commercially prepared B99 in mine; but, show me enough exapmles and I might change my mind.....
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Here is exactly what you are asking for.

This is a link to a database with thusands of cars that have been running
veggie for millions of miles.
If you just want information for the Mercedes you can easily do a search
for just that make.

http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/fuelsdatabase/database/index.php
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Who is frankie ?
Should I search for his posts here ?
How do I find the others that have avoided catastrophy ?

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I wouldn't dream of burning anything other than D2 or commercially prepared B99 in mine
Finally, somebody that knows what should be used in their vehicle.

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