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Old 04-04-2018, 10:03 AM
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Yes because the odometers never fail on these cars, right ? .

Missing glove box door isn't a small thing to me ~

It screams lack of basic care .
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:41 AM
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I think there is a lotta doubt that it might not pass smog lol but I like it I agree it's a fair price especially if it's the original odometer
Smog is not an issue for that vintage in California.

I’m surprised it looks the way it does when they say it’s been loved.

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Old 04-10-2018, 03:26 PM
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https://fresno.craigslist.org/cto/d/1995-mercedes-e320/6557141219.html

Is that an M104 I see?
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Old 04-11-2018, 12:51 AM
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It looks a little different than the M104 in my 1990 300CE.
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:12 AM
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It looks a little different than the M104 in my 1990 300CE.
Because you have a CIS M104.

M104:



Also a M104:



M103:

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Old 04-10-2018, 10:13 PM
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Yes, M104.

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Old 04-10-2018, 10:22 PM
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Those are pretty sweet little engines.
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Old 04-12-2018, 11:39 PM
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1992 Mercedes 300D 2.5L Turbo Diesel For Parts or Project - $1000 (fremont / union city / newark)

Up for sale is our 1992 Mercedes 300D with the 2.5L Turbo Diesel.


- It starts right away in the winter and still run very strong: No white or blue smoke at all.
- The transmission shifts very smooth.
- It is currently registered as Non-Op so no back fee with the DMV.
- This car is exempt of smog check.
- Excellent interior condition
- Has the 2.5L Turbo Diesel: Very reliable, strong and gas efficient engine.
- New transmission fluid
- Clean title
- Color: Gold
- 192,XXX miles: Very low miles since these diesel engines are known to easily go up to 500K miles
- Very efficient car
- Very clean inside
- Tan leather interior
- Power steering
- Power windows
- Central locks
- AC
- Comes with 2 keys
- This car can run on regular, biodiesel, vegetable oil

Price: $1000.00 firm
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Old 04-13-2018, 10:43 AM
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Why does he say parts of project tho?? Description seems to say everything is in working order... What am I missing?
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:31 AM
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https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-240d-4-speed/6562298329.html

Pretty overpriced in my opinion but nevertheless, a beautiful w123 in cypress green.

But just for fun what do you guys think, is this a real Euro import or is it a USA spec 240d with Euro bumpers. I see many indications that lead me to believe its a USA spec 240d. No vacuum headlight adjustment switch, no cloth interior, and of course the two USA bumper holes in the rear quarter panels. What else can you guys detect?
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Old 04-16-2018, 12:18 PM
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https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-240d-4-speed/6562298329.html

Pretty overpriced in my opinion but nevertheless, a beautiful w123 in cypress green.

But just for fun what do you guys think, is this a real Euro import or is it a USA spec 240d with Euro bumpers. I see many indications that lead me to believe its a USA spec 240d. No vacuum headlight adjustment switch, no cloth interior, and of course the two USA bumper holes in the rear quarter panels. What else can you guys detect?
The holes could have been for the mounts for full wrap around bumpers without the rubber boot, although being an '83, I believe all the Euro bumpers had the rubber boots by then. It is possible that the guy (or someone previous) traded interiors. The cloth interior would have been worth a lot more than the MB Tex. The only real way to know is to get the VIN, and see what it was equipped with from the factory.
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:43 PM
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The holes could have been for the mounts for full wrap around bumpers without the rubber boot, although being an '83, I believe all the Euro bumpers had the rubber boots by then. It is possible that the guy (or someone previous) traded interiors. The cloth interior would have been worth a lot more than the MB Tex. The only real way to know is to get the VIN, and see what it was equipped with from the factory.
That could be true, but three piece Euro bumpers never came on any diesel W123. Yea for sure, the only real way is to see the vin. But it is quite fun to use clues and some detective work.

Anyhow it is pretty common to find Euro spec W123s with USA lights as they usually get federalized during import (no red flags there) However, I just noticed the tail lights are USA as well which don't usually get swapped out during federalization. Does anyone see anything else?
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:06 PM
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Does anyone see anything else?
Cruise control stalk has English markings. Cruise control isn’t a common option on Euro cars with few other comfort options. On the other hand, was thistle geeen a US color option?

Euro Diesels don’t usually have the Diesel badge. They know what D stands for.

Euro 123s usually have the radio antenna in the front fender.

Does the Euro front tiedown stick out so far?

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Old 04-16-2018, 05:15 PM
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Cruise control stalk has English markings. Cruise control isn’t a common option on Euro cars with few other comfort options. On the other hand, was thistle geeen a US color option?

Euro Diesels don’t usually have the Diesel badge. They know what D stands for.

Euro 123s usually have the radio antenna in the front fender.

Does the Euro front tiedown stick out so far?

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Oh wow good eye, I didn't see the cruise control stalk. Now that I think about it, I don't think I have ever seen a Euro W123 with cruise control. I didn't see the diesel badge either, that is a dead giveaway of it being US spec. I wouldn't buy this car just based on the fact that the owner is lying so hard about its "German history."

I've owned three true Euro spec W123s, and only one of them had a front fender mounted antenna. Though I am still not quite sure what dictates where the antenna is installed from the factory. So I guess we can disregard the antenna placement.

A friend of mine just gave me his beater '83 300d US spec W123, and it is Thistle Green (881) Though it is an uncommon color in the USA.

The tiedown looks that of a Euro spec W123, but what else can we detect? Anyone? (just for fun)
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:09 PM
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Cruise control stalk has English markings. Cruise control isn’t a common option on Euro cars with few other comfort options. On the other hand, was thistle geeen a US color option?

Euro Diesels don’t usually have the Diesel badge. They know what D stands for.

Euro 123s usually have the radio antenna in the front fender.

Does the Euro front tiedown stick out so far?

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Sixto - don’t forget the flashy 300D tail light trim! 240D came stock with plain black trim under the lights. This guy upgraded, and I like it! I know I’m also saying this to the wrong crowd, but $7K for a well sorted (which has yet be confirmed here) 240D with manual transmission isn’t something I’d consider too rich. I’ve had a lot of people ask me about my car and if I’d sell it - answer is always yes followed by “for a lot more than you’d ever be willing to pay.” And then folks trying to hone in on $5K, but two (younger budding collectors) came up meaningfully north of that. Still didn’t sell :-).





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