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Old 05-06-2009, 03:46 AM
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I was asking for proof of your b4 mentioned statement. If you have proof it better be solid. If you don't, I recommend not to bite off more then you can chew.
What do you think that most of them were in camps for? Besides the crime of being Jewish? I think history has proven that much.

As to mexicans breaking the law, I think that much is proven when they are here WITHOUT authorization, don't you?

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Old 05-06-2009, 11:25 AM
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I was asking for proof of your b4 mentioned statement. If you have proof it better be solid. If you don't, I recommend not to bite off more then you can chew.
I understand that you're from Germany and you have a perspective that's probably a bit more shaped and formed from the "other side" (if I may be so bold as to suggest that), but from an outsiders' viewpoint (as in NOT in Germany) and even more to the point, a non-participant in the actual fighting of WWII., how can what has been presented to the world for over 65+ years not be considered offensive to a particular segment of society? Or to the world as a whole?

I'm sure there may have been a segment of the Jewish population that may have been cruel to others, but to suggest (even off-handedly) that what happened in Germany and Poland was just is just plain offensive...no one, or no country, should be allowed the wholesale slaughter of innocents like what happened in Germany, Poland, Russia or China, or any other country around the world. (Pol Pot ring a bell?)
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:06 PM
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That will change once Norwich turns into anothe Grand Prarie- I assure you.
Funny you say that, most of my friends in the construction business in Dallas tell me that US citizen employees rip them off left and right, while the undocumentareos rarely steel anything, as a general rule.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:07 PM
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Norwich is an armpit, don't know much about Grand Prairie, 'cept that it's in between Dallas and Ft Worth.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:11 PM
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TROLL...

If YOU can't understand the difference between what occured in Germany before, during and immediately following WWII., and you attempt to correlate the suffering of the Jewish population with the willfull and blatant disregard for the rule of law concerning anything related to imigration into the United States, IMO you're trolling and should just back off on the "I'm better than a right-winger" high...'cause you're so off base anything I'm reading after this is laughable at best.

Jews were rounded up and transported TO concentration camps to either work for, or die under, the Third Reich.

Illegal aliens COME TO the United States to make money, not pay any taxes and send the cash back home...in the mean time, risking their lives and their safety 'cause half-assed business owners don't respect them and instead, abuse them...

When the IAs get caught, they are put into compounds to await their fate. TS that they got caught...how many do we (The US) arrest on their way back to Mexico?

Dude, you're one sick puppy on this thread right now and IMO you're way overdue for a BAN.

Enough said.
What the hell are you talking about? You are totally lost. Re-read the thread, and cut out the stupid name-calling, you are totally, totally clueless to what it is I am even talking about. Let me make it simple for you: some one asked why "Awake", posted those pictures. It is obvious he posted them to imply that HE feels that illegals should be put in concentration camps and gassed. Now tell me how what I said even remotely correlates to your insulting reply? If anyone has proven here where the real insulting bannable garbage starts, it is you, just look at how your obvious hatred for me makes lose control of yourself. What right do you have to throw around your insults? You should get lost like the rest of the rightwingers who can't have a logical conversation did. Get a clue dude, "Awake" is the English version of the Nazi slogan "Erwake". I am sure he enjoys your support. As for me, if you don't like what I have to say, don't read it.

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Old 05-06-2009, 12:19 PM
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Funny you say that, most of my friends in the construction business in Dallas tell me that US citizen employees rip them off left and right, while the undocumentareos rarely steel anything, as a general rule.
Maybe they just don't want to draw attention to the fact that they are illegals or maybe if they get fired they have no recourse. Criminals often try to lie low after they have done something illegal. Remember that issue of Superman III with Richard Pryor? How did he get busted by the boss? Show up next day in a red Ferrari.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:22 PM
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It is obvious he posted them to imply that HE feels that illegals should be put in concentration camps and gassed.
Lets sum up what we have on this board. A guy that can read faces (CMAC) and you, a guy that can read minds. Could be you are right but it could also be that it could be a tongue in cheek thing. You don't really know either way, do you?

But so what if that was how he feels? How do you expect him to feel about people who break into his house?
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:26 PM
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Maybe they just don't want to draw attention to the fact that they are illegals or maybe if they get fired they have no recourse. Criminals often try to lie low after they have done something illegal. Remember that issue of Superman III with Richard Pryor? How did he get busted by the boss? Show up next day in a red Ferrari.
Well, yes. These people are for the most part, not criminals. They are desperate people driven to this in order to support their families, but of course, to understand that would require you to have compassion for them, of which you have stated you have none. These people were invited here by us. We invited them to take jobs, rent apartments and buy cheap cars from us. Our representatives riddled the law with loopholes to allow those who were making a profit off of them to get away with it. To now call for them to be murdered, whoa.

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Old 05-06-2009, 12:28 PM
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Lets sum up what we have on this board. A guy that can read faces (CMAC) and you, a guy that can read minds. Could be you are right but it could also be that it could be a tongue in cheek thing. You don't really know either way, do you?

But so what if that was how he feels? How do you expect him to feel about people who break into his house?
I wouldn't know, why don't you ask him? I have given my interpretation of his remarks, which started with a post with a link to vile racist website written for Nazi pigs, with a post of his sympathy for their pigs**t views attached, and then seems to end in a post of a pile of dead Jews. Perhaps he's done his work here and left. Erwake.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:34 PM
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Well, yes. These people are for the most part, not criminals.

They are desperate people driven to this in order to support their families, but of course, to understand that would require you to have compassion for them, of which you have stated you have none.

These people were invited here by us. We invited them to take jobs, rent apartments and buy cheap cars from us. Our representatives riddled the law with loopholes to allow those who were making a profit off of them to get away with it. To now call for them to be murdered, whoa.
Sorry but when you deliberately break a law and are still breaking it, I don't know what else to call you.

Sorry again but I have no compassion for criminals. I suppose next you will want me to have compassion for Madoff?

Got a copy of the letter of invite? I suppose next you will tell me that we invited the Colombian drug lords to come here and peddle their drugs? Yes, we don't enforce the laws because there are some PC issues that we don't dare cross. OTOH, if congress can "get tough" with AIG, why can't they get tough with people that, as you claim, invite them over? If I see that the penalty for DUI is a $50 fine and Johnny Law drives me home, WGAS? I'll drive drunk. What? You want me to pay for a cab out of my own pocket? OTOH, if I fail a sobriety test and a blood test and the penalty is 2 years, I might have to consider it seriously. Now, if the penalty is say summary execution, you bet I will never drink. Again, just an extreme case not calling for drunk drivers to be summarily executed, YET!
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So tell me, how does your theory work when it was illegal for a black man to kiss a white woman? Kill them too? Call them "criminals"? I must admit, I am finding your views so extreme that I am really wondering why I just don't put you on ignore, you simply seem to be in the business of making sure you have the most outrageous opinion, rather than being a critical thinker.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:48 PM
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So tell me, how does your theory work when it was illegal for a black man to kiss a white woman? Kill them too? Call them "criminals"?

I must admit, I am finding your views so extreme

that I am really wondering why I just don't put you on ignore,

you simply seem to be in the business of making sure you have the most outrageous opinion, rather than being a critical thinker.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Because we had some bad laws then we should not enforce the ones on the books today because 100 years later, someone might thing they were bad and change them?

Hello Kettle, this is the Pot. Like I said before with you it is Dem 100% good, Rep 100% bad and you think that isn't extreme?

If you feel you must put me on ignore, feel free. I probably won't even notice it.

If I think exactly like you, would I be accused of not thinking critically?
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I wonder if anyone is going to go after the source who provided the illegal social security numbers.
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Lots of discrepancies. ^^^^

Inflation has nothing to do with your theories. Nobody is holding a gun on small businesses to use cheap labor. I can assure you, small or large business or employers will not pay a dollar more than they have to, to get ANY labor under any economic conditions. It wouldn't produce "serious inflation," according to your belief. The market solves ALL economies of scale, always have too.
They won't pay a dollar more than they have to. The dollar they have to is less for illegals than it would be for Americans. If the illegals were gone, they'd have to pay more in labor. If they have to pay more in labor, prices go up. Since just about everyone has some illegals working for them, prices would go up across the board. Many markets wouldn't be able to sustain the higher price.
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:09 PM
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Since just about everyone has some illegals working for them, prices would go up across the board.

Many markets wouldn't be able to sustain the higher price.
Are you sure that 12 million illegals really goes across the board so far that just about everyone has some illegals working for them?

Why won't markets be able to sustain higher prices? Again, it's not like say Denny's will be the only one raising prices. It will be all over so I am not sure it will affect things that much. But lets say that you are partially right and there is an effect of some sort, what about the cost of NOT having to support the illegals and their offspring? That could also become a savings and cover some of the costs. This is like tossing my kid out at 18. Sure, this means I have to mow the lawn or hire it out just like other jobs around the house when an extra set of hands is great. OTOH, I don't have to pay for his expenses so it might be a wash or a profit. You cannot argue that they don't take up resources.

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