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kknudson · #1 11-05-2010, 07:41 AM

Well the Republicans (yes I am technically one, more independent but) heads got real real real big, and IMHO for the wrong reason.

OB had a meeting where he said the people want Washington to work together.

No sooner did Mitch Mconnell basically say here's what we want and we'll work with the Pres as soon as he comes over to our side.

So Mitch got a fat head because a lot of Republicans got elected, over their Democratic opponents, thinking it's because we want Republican policies.
But I think we want Washington to work TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE.

If they hold this attitude, they'll get voted out in 2012.
But who do we replace them with ?

We don't need less government, we less POLITICS !

rs899 · #2 11-05-2010, 07:50 AM

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But who do we replace them with ?

I say the British Parliament. Our system is broken.

Mike D · #3 11-05-2010, 08:02 AM

Dad Gummit! Does this mean we have to start getting our tea from England again? If I remember correctly it didn't work out all that well the last time.

Hatterasguy · #4 11-05-2010, 08:11 AM

We need more than two party's, than they will be forced to work together, or get nothing done. The later being good for us.

I voted all independent and for one Green party member last election. Heck I would vote for the communist party before I voted for a dem or repub again.

If the American people ever get rid of this silly notion that not voting for the two party's is throwing away a vote this would happen.

layback40 · #5 11-05-2010, 08:18 AM

The grass is always greener on the other side!!!

Over here, people keep complaining that our Westminster (same as England) system of government is antiquated & not good enough for a modern society, so we should move more to an American style of government.
I laugh when some one suggests that the USA should move towards a British Westminster style.
Make the most of what you have got. Try living in another country for a while & you will soon see things are not that bad !!
We now have an interesting system with a minority party running the country.
The independents are there now "to keep the Bas##### honest".
One said that "we are only 1 heart attack from another general election".

SwampYankee · #6 11-05-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kknudson

But I think we want Washington to work TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE.
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We don't need less government, we less POLITICS !

Never gonna happen. There is less common ground as of late than there's ever been. The primary candidates are more and more partisan since that's what's needed to get the bases out. Some will moderate their message as the general election nears, often to their own detriment come primary time the next time around.

JollyRoger · #7 11-05-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kknudson

Well the Republicans (yes I am technically one, more independent but) heads got real real real big, and IMHO for the wrong reason.

OB had a meeting where he said the people want Washington to work together.

No sooner did Mitch Mconnell basically say here's what we want and we'll work with the Pres as soon as he comes over to our side.

So Mitch got a fat head because a lot of Republicans got elected, over their Democratic opponents, thinking it's because we want Republican policies.
But I think we want Washington to work TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE.

If they hold this attitude, they'll get voted out in 2012.
But who do we replace them with ?

We don't need less government, we less POLITICS !

And so it goes.....

lutzTD · #8 11-05-2010, 11:53 AM

politics in the information age. I imagine the politics today are pretty much the same as they have always been, trouble is now we see and hear what they are doing first hand with daily updates. Think about how we were getting news just a decade ago and how different it is now.

Billybob · #9 11-05-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kknudson

Well the Republicans (yes I am technically one, more independent but) heads got real real real big, and IMHO for the wrong reason.

OB had a meeting where he said the people want Washington to work together.

No sooner did Mitch Mconnell basically say here's what we want and we'll work with the Pres as soon as he comes over to our side.

So Mitch got a fat head because a lot of Republicans got elected, over their Democratic opponents, thinking it's because we want Republican policies.
But I think we want Washington to work TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE.

If they hold this attitude, they'll get voted out in 2012.
But who do we replace them with ?

We don't need less government, we less POLITICS !

“Elections have consequences.

--Barack Obama”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m06sSoZ5bo

Thanks, Dear Leader!

The scenario you've portrayed is a little over simplified unfortunately. If you look at what the Dear Leader said and I'll paraphrase until I find the transcript was, "I'm inviting the republicans to meet directly and work together with my administration and passing legislation that advances my agenda, now that they control the House"

McConnell made it clear that the Republican agenda is first and foremost to defeat the Dear Leader in 2012 as that is the only possible way to stop his agenda, reverse his agenda, and to make any progress on the Republican agenda. He specifically said that when the Dear Leaders agenda coincides with the electorate the Republicans will be open to working with him, when his agenda does not coincide with the electorate the Republicans will work against his agenda.

This election was a historic reversal of fortune against the Dear Leader and his agenda of the left, if one takes into consideration the extent of the deluge which swept the left from their position of virtual absolute power it is even more significant. The number of anti-Democrat victories in Governorships, in State legislatures is stunning and will have significant consequences for years to come, and an advantage in the next election that hopefully will give the Dear Leader another historic first -First Black Single Term President in US history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdjQjqPB2Yc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYa2rw4cY8w&feature=related

aklim · #10 11-05-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

"I'm inviting the republicans to meet directly and work together with my administration and passing legislation that advances my agenda, now that they control the House"

McConnell made it clear that the Republican agenda is first and foremost to defeat the Dear Leader in 2012 as that is the only possible way to stop his agenda, reverse his agenda, and to make any progress on the Republican agenda. He specifically said that when the Dear Leaders agenda coincides with the electorate the Republicans will be open to working with him, when his agenda does not coincide with the electorate the Republicans will work against his agenda.

How different would it be if the situation were reversed? It is all about setting the tone for the next few years or at least, trying to. Also it is about giving the illusion to the people that they are there for you.

Well, no kidding. What they don't mention is the agenda is for the elected to get re-elected. Why people refuse to understand that is beyond me. Dems will say Reps are scum and their people really care. Reps will say the opposite. Fact is, the elected are people. They care about 1 thing. WIIFM. If it comes down to a choice between their party and their political skin, I have no doubts which way they will lean. When that isn't an issue, the party gets served since the party brings good things to them. When all else is said and done, if you get served, so be it. People are going to be people regardless of which party they belong to.

MS Fowler · #11 11-05-2010, 02:40 PM

There seems to be a presumption that the government SHOULD always be passing new laws.
Maybe its time to look at the benefits of gridlock.
First off is that small businesses will not have to live in fear of new regulations and new costs. That might free them to actually invest in their small businesses. That would mean hiring new people, reducing unemployment and increased taxes flowing into state and federal coffers.

Maybe citizens would be freed from fears of onerous new regulations impacting their lives.

Maybe taking off a year or two, or five will be helpful to the economy as well as the citizenry.

daveuz · #12 11-05-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

“Elections have consequences.

--Barack Obama”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m06sSoZ5bo

Thanks, Dear Leader!

The scenario you've portrayed is a little over simplified unfortunately. If you look at what the Dear Leader said and I'll paraphrase until I find the transcript was, "I'm inviting the republicans to meet directly and work together with my administration and passing legislation that advances my agenda, now that they control the House"

McConnell made it clear that the Republican agenda is first and foremost to defeat the Dear Leader in 2012 as that is the only possible way to stop his agenda, reverse his agenda, and to make any progress on the Republican agenda. He specifically said that when the Dear Leaders agenda coincides with the electorate the Republicans will be open to working with him, when his agenda does not coincide with the electorate the Republicans will work against his agenda.

This election was a historic reversal of fortune against the Dear Leader and his agenda of the left, if one takes into consideration the extent of the deluge which swept the left from their position of virtual absolute power it is even more significant. The number of anti-Democrat victories in Governorships, in State legislatures is stunning and will have significant consequences for years to come, and an advantage in the next election that hopefully will give the Dear Leader another historic first -First Black Single Term President in US history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdjQjqPB2Yc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYa2rw4cY8w&feature=related

Has McConnell called and asked you to please stop helping to get Democrats to get elected?
Scott Brown to back Democrats' jobs bill

By Ben Pershing
Newly elected Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) will vote to advance Democrats' $15 billion jobs bill Monday evening, breaking with his party and giving Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) one of the two votes he needs to move the measure forward. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/02/scott-brown-to-back-democrats.html

Skid Row Joe · #13 11-05-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kknudson

Well the Republicans (yes I am technically one, more independent but) heads got real real real big, and IMHO for the wrong reason.

OB had a meeting where he said the people want Washington to work together.

No sooner did Mitch Mconnell basically say here's what we want and we'll work with the Pres as soon as he comes over to our side.

So Mitch got a fat head because a lot of Republicans got elected, over their Democratic opponents, thinking it's because we want Republican policies.
But I think we want Washington to work TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE.

If they hold this attitude, they'll get voted out in 2012.
But who do we replace them with ?

We don't need less government, we less POLITICS !

The losing side has to come over to the winning side and work with them.

I believe you have it backasswards.

"Elections have consequences." - Barack Husein Obama

Skid Row Joe · #14 11-05-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Heck I would vote for the communist party before I voted for a dem or repub again.

- That's basically what we had with the one-party ruling. They were well on the way to a dictatorship, until We The American People woke up and threw the bums out!

Unprecedented upheaval. We're safe for (2) years now.

Skid Row Joe · #15 11-05-2010, 06:17 PM

November 5, 2010
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH LIMBAUGH: This really is important. We are sitting here on one of the greatest political opportunities of our lifetime. We have just -- the American people have just -- rejected liberalism.

They need to be told that's what they did. Too many people don't yet realize that what they voted against was liberalism. They think they're voting against "Washington not working," so they think they're voting against Washington. Again, Washington doesn't work. They want Washington to work.

Why Washington doesn't work needs to be explained to them. It doesn't work because of liberals running it. It's just that simple. It's not complicated. It can be demonstrated.

Now, the minute inside-the-Beltway Republicans start trashing liberalism, that's the day that they are rejected from the ruling class. The day they stop talking about bipartisanship and all that, that's the day they get kicked out of the ruling class, 'cause they're just invited guests in the ruling class.

The Democrats control who's in the ruling class, in Washington. They control who's in the clique. But I cannot emphasize this enough. I cannot say enough times: The folly of a tidal wave victory and wipeout, historic wipeout, and the next day the Republicans think what they have to first do is trash the Tea Party and Sarah Palin rather than seize this opportunity?

If they want to win every year, if they want to be a generational winner, if the Republicans wanna resign the Democrats to being out of power for 40 years, here's how you do it.

The Democrats just illustrated who they are and what they do nationally if unchecked. We've already got the example of Michigan. We've got the example of New Orleans and Louisiana. We've got the example of San Francisco. We've got it.

Everywhere liberals run the show in conjunction with unionism, you've got utter despair and destruction. It's time it was pointed out.